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The Combat Infantryman Badge


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I don't see many of these, and was glad to pick one up at a recent show--please show any that you may have!

 

 

Excerpt from Wikipedia:

 

Recorded instances of the unofficial combat badges actually being worn are rare, but the following comes from the memoir of a Korean war veteran:

 

At one meal in the mess hall, a young fellow was eating at the same table as I. He was wearing a medal on his left chest. The medal looked similar to a Combat Infantryman Badge, the difference being that the background was red and the weapon an artillery gun barrel. I told him that the US Army did not confer such a medal. He got very mad at me. He was just a little fellow. I repeated my statement that there was no such medal. He said that it was a Combat Artilleryman Badge. I said that there was no such thing. His buddies huddled around him and glared at me. Every time we ran into each other on the ship, he was with his buddies and he gave me an angry look.

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I believe so, it was an unauthorized badge that some men wore to show combat service. Engineers and Tankers had them made-up as well, although I have never seen one outside of a picture.

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To imply or ortherwise state that these badges were "unoffical" tends to lend some degree of authenticity to the pieces. "Unofficial"--not even considered. "Unauthorized"--you better believe it! When I was in Korea, you could find these at any store that provided military items. They found their way to CONUS to stores outside bases. The fact that they existed gave way to the erroneous impression that they were condoned. "I'm an artilleryman and a combat veteran, ergo I'm authorized to wear this badge." That lasted only so long as to the first time you were caught wearing such a piece, and all hell broke loose. In my opinion, these fall into the same category as the parachute wings with the spread legged tart.

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Bill,

 

Check out this thread.

 

http://www.usmilitariaforum.com/forums/ind...=379&hl=CIB

 

In the thread there is also a link to a great CIB site with good information.

 

These are very collectible badges, and one thing I do collect besides armor and TD stuff.

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Collecting WWII Armor and Tank Destroyer Items

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I always thought these were fantasy. I had a chance to buy all 4 once. Dang

"FOR OUR TOMORROWS, THEY GAVE THEIR TODAYS"
Sgt Jesse 'Jeff Nasty' Balthaser; Sgt John P Huling; Cpl Carlos 'Gilo Monster' Gilorozco; Cpl Stephen C 'Socks' Sockalosky; LCpl Joshua A 'Scottie' Scott; LCpl Jason Lee 'Birdman' Frye; LCpl Nicolas B Morrison; LCpl Jon T Hicks; LCpl Osbrany 'Oz' Montes De Oca; Pvt Lewis T D Calapini; 'The SOI 5'

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post-195-1195424494.jpgsince there's been some discussion about these I thought I would post one that I have on a uniform, I bought it at a flea mkt. 20 years ago for $20.00, there is a name that looks like parvin and p1678 marked inside. I believe the unit would be the 89th tank bn.

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Brad-

I don't believe the badge dates from the Korean War era. This exact badge (and the red crossed cannon artillery type) were made in the 1970's for the collector market. They were all over the place (army navy stores, militaria shows) back then, but I don't see them as much anymore.

Kurt

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I guess that's a hazzard of posting, finding out that some of your stuff is bad! , oh well I'm glad I know now and will keep posting, thanks for your answer. crying.gif

Brad-

I wouldn't call it bad. You still have a nice Ike Jacket there and paid a reasonable price.

Kurt

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What was the difference between the award for the Expert Infantry man and the Combat Infantryman award ??

 

Regards

 

Lloyd

The explanation of the difference between the EIB and CIB is basically correct; one is for passing a number of quite difficult tests relating to the Infantry MOS field, and the other is for actually having served as an infantryman in combat (which does not require the recipient be in an Infantry MOS at the time, only that he performed as an infantryman).

 

However, the difference between the EIB and CIB was originally not so clear cut.

 

"Combat Infantryman Badge (approved November 15, 1943) is for those officers and men "whose conduct in combat ie exemplary or whose combat action occurs in a major operation." Expert Infantryman Badge (approved November 11, 1943) is for officers and men "who attain established standards OR WHOSE ACTION IN COMBAT IS RATED SATISFACTORY." (emphasis added by myself). This quote is from pg 79 of the Revised 1944 Edition of "Insignia and Decorations of the US Armed Forces" by the National Geographic Societ.

 

This was shortly changed to the criteria of testing versus combat which several forum members have already cited. I have also seen copies of the original regulation which discusses the satisfactory combat service versus exemplary, but do not have them at my fingertips right now.

 

I believe the criteria was changed because of the immense difficulty in deciding what was "satisfactory" versus "exemplary" and what rated as a "major operation".

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Very interesting information.

Activly Selling All Items

All eras

VERY interested in M1 helmets, WWI victory medals, and I will do almost anything for real SOG gear or uniforms.

Email or PM with offers please.

Needing; Pin back CIB, two piece CIB, ANy odd CIB's, 41st Infantry Regiment DUI (old ones), 65th AFAB DUI

 

Please visit my website at DM1975.com

 

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Nice, I would like to see as many regs on the CIB as I can. Thank you for posting it.

Activly Selling All Items

All eras

VERY interested in M1 helmets, WWI victory medals, and I will do almost anything for real SOG gear or uniforms.

Email or PM with offers please.

Needing; Pin back CIB, two piece CIB, ANy odd CIB's, 41st Infantry Regiment DUI (old ones), 65th AFAB DUI

 

Please visit my website at DM1975.com

 

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