the.warlord1944 Posted November 7, 2007 Share #301 Posted November 7, 2007 Nothing special but i like it. Has to arrive still, but here the picture. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the.warlord1944 Posted November 10, 2007 Share #302 Posted November 10, 2007 My second one. War on terrorism. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CNY Militaria Posted November 13, 2007 Share #303 Posted November 13, 2007 I don't see many of these, and was glad to pick one up at a recent show--please show any that you may have! Excerpt from Wikipedia: Recorded instances of the unofficial combat badges actually being worn are rare, but the following comes from the memoir of a Korean war veteran: At one meal in the mess hall, a young fellow was eating at the same table as I. He was wearing a medal on his left chest. The medal looked similar to a Combat Infantryman Badge, the difference being that the background was red and the weapon an artillery gun barrel. I told him that the US Army did not confer such a medal. He got very mad at me. He was just a little fellow. I repeated my statement that there was no such medal. He said that it was a Combat Artilleryman Badge. I said that there was no such thing. His buddies huddled around him and glared at me. Every time we ran into each other on the ship, he was with his buddies and he gave me an angry look. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the.warlord1944 Posted November 13, 2007 Share #304 Posted November 13, 2007 Never seen one before. It is Korea era piece ?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CNY Militaria Posted November 13, 2007 Share #305 Posted November 13, 2007 I believe so, it was an unauthorized badge that some men wore to show combat service. Engineers and Tankers had them made-up as well, although I have never seen one outside of a picture. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricardo Posted November 13, 2007 Share #306 Posted November 13, 2007 Hi Justin, More informations: http://www.usmilitariaforum.com/forums/ind...mp;hl=Artillery Best regards, Ricardo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jumpin Jack Posted November 13, 2007 Share #307 Posted November 13, 2007 To imply or ortherwise state that these badges were "unoffical" tends to lend some degree of authenticity to the pieces. "Unofficial"--not even considered. "Unauthorized"--you better believe it! When I was in Korea, you could find these at any store that provided military items. They found their way to CONUS to stores outside bases. The fact that they existed gave way to the erroneous impression that they were condoned. "I'm an artilleryman and a combat veteran, ergo I'm authorized to wear this badge." That lasted only so long as to the first time you were caught wearing such a piece, and all hell broke loose. In my opinion, these fall into the same category as the parachute wings with the spread legged tart. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
USMCRECON Posted November 13, 2007 Share #308 Posted November 13, 2007 Here's a picture of the front/back of a pinback shirt-sized CIB. It's nothing spectacular....I just haven't seen many of these that are pinback type. this one does not appear to be made of sterling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CNY Militaria Posted November 13, 2007 Share #309 Posted November 13, 2007 Thanks Ricardo, great thread and photo! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Baker Posted November 13, 2007 Share #310 Posted November 13, 2007 Bill, Check out this thread. http://www.usmilitariaforum.com/forums/ind...=379&hl=CIB In the thread there is also a link to a great CIB site with good information. These are very collectible badges, and one thing I do collect besides armor and TD stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brig Posted November 17, 2007 Share #311 Posted November 17, 2007 I always thought these were fantasy. I had a chance to buy all 4 once. Dang Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brad k Posted November 18, 2007 Share #312 Posted November 18, 2007 since there's been some discussion about these I thought I would post one that I have on a uniform, I bought it at a flea mkt. 20 years ago for $20.00, there is a name that looks like parvin and p1678 marked inside. I believe the unit would be the 89th tank bn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brad k Posted November 18, 2007 Share #313 Posted November 18, 2007 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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KurtA Posted November 18, 2007 Share #315 Posted November 18, 2007 Brad- I don't believe the badge dates from the Korean War era. This exact badge (and the red crossed cannon artillery type) were made in the 1970's for the collector market. They were all over the place (army navy stores, militaria shows) back then, but I don't see them as much anymore. Kurt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CNY Militaria Posted November 18, 2007 Share #316 Posted November 18, 2007 Do you mean this particular badge, or these unofficial badges in general Kurt? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KurtA Posted November 18, 2007 Share #317 Posted November 18, 2007 Do you mean this particular badge, or these unofficial badges in general Kurt? This particular badge. 1950's era badges of this design certainly do exist. Kurt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brad k Posted November 19, 2007 Share #318 Posted November 19, 2007 I guess that's a hazzard of posting, finding out that some of your stuff is bad! , oh well I'm glad I know now and will keep posting, thanks for your answer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KurtA Posted November 19, 2007 Share #319 Posted November 19, 2007 I guess that's a hazzard of posting, finding out that some of your stuff is bad! , oh well I'm glad I know now and will keep posting, thanks for your answer. Brad- I wouldn't call it bad. You still have a nice Ike Jacket there and paid a reasonable price. Kurt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolventm Posted November 25, 2007 Share #320 Posted November 25, 2007 What was the difference between the award for the Expert Infantry man and the Combat Infantryman award ?? Regards Lloyd The explanation of the difference between the EIB and CIB is basically correct; one is for passing a number of quite difficult tests relating to the Infantry MOS field, and the other is for actually having served as an infantryman in combat (which does not require the recipient be in an Infantry MOS at the time, only that he performed as an infantryman). However, the difference between the EIB and CIB was originally not so clear cut. "Combat Infantryman Badge (approved November 15, 1943) is for those officers and men "whose conduct in combat ie exemplary or whose combat action occurs in a major operation." Expert Infantryman Badge (approved November 11, 1943) is for officers and men "who attain established standards OR WHOSE ACTION IN COMBAT IS RATED SATISFACTORY." (emphasis added by myself). This quote is from pg 79 of the Revised 1944 Edition of "Insignia and Decorations of the US Armed Forces" by the National Geographic Societ. This was shortly changed to the criteria of testing versus combat which several forum members have already cited. I have also seen copies of the original regulation which discusses the satisfactory combat service versus exemplary, but do not have them at my fingertips right now. I believe the criteria was changed because of the immense difficulty in deciding what was "satisfactory" versus "exemplary" and what rated as a "major operation". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DM1975 Posted November 25, 2007 Share #321 Posted November 25, 2007 Very interesting information. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craig_pickrall Posted December 1, 2007 Share #322 Posted December 1, 2007 I was going thru old regs today and copied this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DM1975 Posted December 1, 2007 Share #323 Posted December 1, 2007 Nice, I would like to see as many regs on the CIB as I can. Thank you for posting it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PATCHRAT Posted December 1, 2007 Share #324 Posted December 1, 2007 here is a nice example of a Korean War Vet Bullion CIB and ribbons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeeper704 Posted December 1, 2007 Share #325 Posted December 1, 2007 Not a real CIB, but thought it was appropriate to post here;a CIB pin as worn at Reunions.Erwin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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