Steve B. Posted November 12, 2006 Share #1 Posted November 12, 2006 Here are a few of my CIBs to get the ball rolling. The top CIB is the standard 3-inch version: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve B. Posted November 12, 2006 Author Share #2 Posted November 12, 2006 First is a post-war German-made silver bullion bevo CIB. The silver thread is soo tarnished that it is almost invisible against the brownish rayon background: This is a nicely embroidered CIB on thick brown wool, probably English-made. The moths have been busy on this one as can be seen by the numerous holes on the left side: This is embroidered on what appears to be standard WWII-era wool shirt material, with a blue background made of a thin cotton material. It is probably Italian-made. The stain is of unknown origin, possibly marinara sauce! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2ad82recon Posted November 12, 2006 Share #3 Posted November 12, 2006 Hi Steve how are ya buddy.....Guys a quick question ...Steve if we have discussed this before the case of CRS is getting worse with age...:-) Could a member of an ARMORED-INFANTRY battalion be awarded the CIB ? Regards Lloyd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve B. Posted November 12, 2006 Author Share #4 Posted November 12, 2006 Hi Lloyd! Absolutely YES! Armored infantry was still infantry, just assigned to an armored division instead of a regular infantry division or an airborne division. They got to ride part-way in halftracks or on tanks, but the airborne got to ride part way in airplanes. Once on the ground, all are infantry. Take care- Steve Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve B. Posted November 14, 2006 Author Share #5 Posted November 14, 2006 For anyone else interested in CIBs, here is a website that you might find helpful: http://36thair3ad.homestead.com/CIB.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Hudson Posted November 14, 2006 Share #6 Posted November 14, 2006 For anyone else interested in CIBs, here is a website that you might find helpful: http://36thair3ad.homestead.com/CIB.html That's always been a frustrating site because there is something non-standard in the HTML and for many people - myself included - the photos are on top of the text, which is a shame because it looks like it could be a valuable resource. So I appreciate anything that is posted here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craig_pickrall Posted November 15, 2006 Share #7 Posted November 15, 2006 Two piece CIB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craig_pickrall Posted November 15, 2006 Share #8 Posted November 15, 2006 Third award Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craig_pickrall Posted November 15, 2006 Share #9 Posted November 15, 2006 Salesman's sample of the 4th award Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craig_pickrall Posted November 15, 2006 Share #10 Posted November 15, 2006 Some of the many variations in cloth Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craig_pickrall Posted November 15, 2006 Share #11 Posted November 15, 2006 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craig_pickrall Posted November 15, 2006 Share #12 Posted November 15, 2006 4th thru 8th award in cloth Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craig_pickrall Posted November 15, 2006 Share #13 Posted November 15, 2006 Clutch back 1st award Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craig_pickrall Posted November 15, 2006 Share #14 Posted November 15, 2006 Pin back 1st award Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craig_pickrall Posted November 15, 2006 Share #15 Posted November 15, 2006 (EIB) Expert Infantry Badge in cloth Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Hudson Posted November 15, 2006 Share #16 Posted November 15, 2006 What's the time period for the clutch back and pin back variations? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craig_pickrall Posted November 15, 2006 Share #17 Posted November 15, 2006 I have always heard those with Stainless Steel Clutches date to WW2. You can see an example of that in post 14, top. I think the pins and clutches co-existed for a while but the pin backs were probably out of the system by the end of the Korean War. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2ad82recon Posted November 15, 2006 Share #18 Posted November 15, 2006 What was the difference between the award for the Expert Infantry man and the Combat Infantryman award ?? Regards Lloyd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craig_pickrall Posted November 15, 2006 Share #19 Posted November 15, 2006 The EIB is an award for passing skill tests. The CIB is for time in combat. Both were created in WW2. The rules for awarding the CIB has changed several times over the yeras and I'm sure the same is true of the EIB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BEAR Posted November 20, 2006 Share #20 Posted November 20, 2006 Your 2 piece CIB is really an EIB with an upgrade wreath to a CIB. Interesting piece, this is only the second one I've seen. If a soldier has been awarded a EIB then qualifies for a CIB, he is only issued 1 badge. However, by buying the detachable wreaths he can update his existing EIBs. The qualification test for EIB is nothing to sniff at. They test all aspects of an Infantryman's job and the test usually takes up to a week to administer. When I was stationed in Alaska I was tagged to help administer the EIB at Ft. Wainwright. We had several CIB holders that wanted to take the EIB. Most of them failed and one staff sergeant grumbled " This is tough... all I had to do to get my CIB was get shot at for 30 days!" BEAR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve B. Posted November 22, 2006 Author Share #21 Posted November 22, 2006 Here are a few of my EIBs. All appear to be 40s-50s era. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craig_pickrall Posted November 22, 2006 Share #22 Posted November 22, 2006 Your 2 piece CIB is really an EIB with an upgrade wreath to a CIB. Interesting piece, this is only the second one I've seen. If a soldier has been awarded a EIB then qualifies for a CIB, he is only issued 1 badge. However, by buying the detachable wreaths he can update his existing EIBs.The qualification test for EIB is nothing to sniff at. They test all aspects of an Infantryman's job and the test usually takes up to a week to administer. When I was stationed in Alaska I was tagged to help administer the EIB at Ft. Wainwright. We had several CIB holders that wanted to take the EIB. Most of them failed and one staff sergeant grumbled " This is tough... all I had to do to get my CIB was get shot at for 30 days!" BEAR Bear, thanks for the comments. That EIB is a WW2 era with Stainless clutches and short pins. I do not know this for sure but I think that wreath came from Italy. The EIB with wreath came from a vet of the 34th INF DIV. I have posted the series of patches that I got from the same vet in the 34th INF DIV thread in the patch section. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craig_pickrall Posted November 22, 2006 Share #23 Posted November 22, 2006 Steve that is a great selection of EIB's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve B. Posted November 29, 2006 Author Share #24 Posted November 29, 2006 Thanks, Ernie! Here are a few more variant CIBs: Chain stitched with blue wool on wool shirt flannel. Italian-made perhaps? Next is another variant, this one with screwback fasteners. These are generally thought of as German-made. And the reverse: Here are a couple of real odd-balls. I don't know what to think of them. Perhaps someone's idea of what a combat armor/cavalry and combat artillery badge should look like? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craig_pickrall Posted November 29, 2006 Share #25 Posted November 29, 2006 That German made piece is a real beauty. Very nice! The probable Italian made piece is very nice as well. I'm curious about the 2 colored CIB's. The only ARMOR or ARTY pieces I have ever seen don't have the flintlock rifle. They either had the crossed cannons or the front view tank on them. The colors were red or yellow to go with the branch color. They are nice items. Do you think they might be as old as the Korean war? They first started using "fancy" name tapes then and many of the early ones were done in branch colors. I can see someone that had a CIB from WW2 but serving in ARM or CAV might have these made to match name tapes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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