27Division18 Posted September 11, 2022 Share #1 Posted September 11, 2022 Is this one of the models or types of WW2 Sherman tank? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Proud Kraut Posted September 11, 2022 Share #2 Posted September 11, 2022 Yes, looks like a Sherman M4A1 with 76mm gun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
27Division18 Posted September 11, 2022 Author Share #3 Posted September 11, 2022 Thanks for the ID. Why did some US tanks from WW2 have a star in a circle and others just display the star on its own? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
27Division18 Posted September 12, 2022 Author Share #4 Posted September 12, 2022 Does the star in the circle denote service with the British Army? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe55 Posted September 12, 2022 Share #5 Posted September 12, 2022 Don't take this as gospel but, I seem to remember reading somewhere that it was to aid in recognition from the air. Perhaps someone else will chime in. Joe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe55 Posted September 12, 2022 Share #6 Posted September 12, 2022 4 minutes ago, 27Division18 said: Does the star in the circle denote service with the British Army? Not necessarily. Both American and some French vehicles used those markings as well. Joe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
patches Posted September 12, 2022 Share #7 Posted September 12, 2022 After a point it was called the Allied Star. A curious thing, the German 15th Panzer Grenadier Division in Sicily, Italy and later on the Western Front used this same White Star as their vehicle symbol, go figure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iron bender Posted September 12, 2022 Share #8 Posted September 12, 2022 I will confirm through one of my WW2 Armor camo books this evening, but I recall US vehicles began applying a circle around the star either during or after Torch, as FO's and aircraft had a hard time distinguishing the German Cross from the US Star at distance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iron bender Posted September 12, 2022 Share #9 Posted September 12, 2022 US Armor by Jim Mesko states the circles were applied before Sicily for the above reasons, chiefly friendly forces identification. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gap Posted September 12, 2022 Share #10 Posted September 12, 2022 I bet they also made a great aiming point for Panzers and anti-tank cannons! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iron bender Posted September 12, 2022 Share #11 Posted September 12, 2022 16 minutes ago, gap said: I bet they also made a great aiming point for Panzers and anti-tank cannons! Yes they did. Just looking at a pic of a recovered Sherman with two perfect holes right in the middle of the star Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
27Division18 Posted January 7, 2023 Author Share #12 Posted January 7, 2023 Thanks for the info guys Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Linedoggie Posted January 7, 2023 Share #13 Posted January 7, 2023 M4A1,76(W) VVSS Wet stowage, big hatch with the later M1A1C main gun on an early T23 turret with the rotating loader hatch Your missing the pistol port door but thats relatively easy to scratchbuild as its simply a round edge square https://www.theshermantank.com/sherman/turrets-the-are-the-combat-power-of-the-tank/ http://the.shadock.free.fr/sherman_minutia/manufacturer/m4a1largehatches/m4a1_largehatches.html Details of the pistol port http://the.shadock.free.fr/sherman_minutia/pistol_port/pistol_port.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
patches Posted October 4, 2023 Share #14 Posted October 4, 2023 On 9/11/2022 at 11:56 PM, patches said: After a point it was called the Allied Star. A curious thing, the German 15th Panzer Grenadier Division in Sicily, Italy and later on the Western Front used this same White Star as their vehicle symbol, go figure. Found a real good photo of the White Star used on the 15th Panzer Grenadier Division vehicles, here in Italy, say January or February 1944, Was always curious why and how they could adopt the same exact vehicle Marking as the Enemy's LOL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
patches Posted November 14, 2023 Share #15 Posted November 14, 2023 An Armored Car of the division, White Star on the nose of vehicle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manayunkman Posted November 14, 2023 Share #16 Posted November 14, 2023 They were using that white star before the allied white star ever emerged. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Linedoggie Posted November 14, 2023 Share #17 Posted November 14, 2023 US star with circle surround was initiated before the invasion of Sicily. It continued in NWE usually as a segmented ring with star because of the stencils used. Solid rings were touched up to mkae the ring solid. You also sometimes see the ring in Sicily painted Drab Yellow FS33245 The reason most Western Allied vehicles used the star was twofold Common recognition device and most of the Forces being American we had the choice Previous campaigns some allied forces used the British white red white flash Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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