Dave Posted November 25, 2024 Author #301 Posted November 25, 2024 1 hour ago, Austin_Militaria said: Any thoughts on this engraving? The PH is a split broach USN type, and the SS is a Army type. At first glance, these look ok to me.
Dave Posted November 25, 2024 Author #302 Posted November 25, 2024 On 9/11/2024 at 4:32 PM, USMarineCorps said: Hi all, What are your thoughts on the engraving style on this AM - DFC pair? The only individual I found with this name was killed in an EC-47 crash in Binh Dinh, Vietnam in 1969 and served with the 460th TRW. However, this does not appear to be in line with other Vietnam era engraving styles I have seen for posthumous awards. Thank you in advance for your input! Fred These definitely aren't standard engraving. This is the sort of thing when you see a set that has been reissued to the family by the unit. That said, it's also the same engraving style most jewelers could do (this was the standard font that came with a new pantograph).
devildog34 Posted November 26, 2024 #303 Posted November 26, 2024 5 hours ago, Austin_Militaria said: Any thoughts on this engraving? The PH is a split broach USN type, and the SS is a Army type. Message sent
USMarineCorps Posted November 26, 2024 #304 Posted November 26, 2024 @Dave, thank you as always for your help. I figured it wasn’t official government engraving, so thank you for confirming this. Here’s another piece I recently picked up. The engraving seems to be consistent with WW2 posthumous examples I have seen, but the recipient earned the medal in WW1. Note that the medal is not numbered and that the brooch and ribbon are no longer present. Comparing it to a 1945 contract DSC I have, the planchet is identical, so I assume it had a slot brooch at some point. Unfortunately the medal has been frequently cleaned during its life, resulting in the base medal showing. Note: I also posted this medal in “REAL OR WHAT?”.
Manatee1015 Posted February 21 #305 Posted February 21 Does anyone have any thoughts about the engravings on both this SSM and PH? Both have a slot brooch. The woman selling them says they were awarded to her grandfather during WWII. Some quick research shows that Sibley E. Manning (1922-1992) was in the 2nd Armored Division. The engravings on both medals look off to me, I’m not used to seeing this type of lettering/font on WWII issued medals. I’ve also never seen a SSM engraving, or really any engraving for that matter, that is so off center like this one either. I’m definitely not an expert though, so hopefully someone here could give me their opinion on them. Also, I asked the seller if her grandfather had these medals replaced later on. I figured that maybe these might be the replacements but she told me no and that these are the original medals. I apologize in advance as the photos she sent to me aren’t the best quality. Thanks!
S1991 Posted February 23 #306 Posted February 23 On 2/21/2025 at 8:42 PM, Manatee1015 said: Does anyone have any thoughts about the engravings on both this SSM and PH? Both have a slot brooch. The woman selling them says they were awarded to her grandfather during WWII. Some quick research shows that Sibley E. Manning (1922-1992) was in the 2nd Armored Division. The engravings on both medals look off to me, I’m not used to seeing this type of lettering/font on WWII issued medals. I’ve also never seen a SSM engraving, or really any engraving for that matter, that is so off center like this one either. I’m definitely not an expert though, so hopefully someone here could give me their opinion on them. Also, I asked the seller if her grandfather had these medals replaced later on. I figured that maybe these might be the replacements but she told me no and that these are the original medals. I apologize in advance as the photos she sent to me aren’t the best quality. Thanks! I've seen these being sold by 3 different persons now.. Twice on Facebook and once on eBay. The Purple Heart and Silver Star are actually post-war re-issued ones. There is a Newspaper article that states that his wartime ones had been stolen by his wife after he came back home from overseas. Somewhere in the 80's, if I remember correctly, he received these. Quite a interesting story, yet the asking price is a bit.. Well, steep.
Manatee1015 Posted February 23 #307 Posted February 23 1 hour ago, S1991 said: I've seen these being sold by 3 different persons now.. Twice on Facebook and once on eBay. The Purple Heart and Silver Star are actually post-war re-issued ones. There is a Newspaper article that states that his wartime ones had been stolen by his wife after he came back home from overseas. Somewhere in the 80's, if I remember correctly, he received these. Quite a interesting story, yet the asking price is a bit.. Well, steep. Very interesting, thanks for the information! That was my original thought too, that these medals may have been later replacements, but when she told me they weren’t, with that engraving style it seemed a bit suspect. Not saying she was lying or anything, she very well might not have known about the theft. Just that the engraving didn’t seem to be from WWII. On another note, I wonder if the recipient and his wife had a bad divorce or something? That’s a pretty low thing to do, to steal something that meaningful, especially from your own husband. And you’re not kidding about the asking price! 😂 Thanks again. Much appreciated, - Vincent
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