M1C Liner and shell

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Picked this set up today. Shell is rear seam, manganese rim and sand texture.

What exactly do I have. The liner is a 1951 dated CAPAC/Westinghouse P51 with

A yokes. Are the yokes factory applied or rigger added?

Also, is the shell an Ingersoll or Late WW2 McCord refurbished during post-WW2 period? To my untrained eyes, the heat stamp number does not look look like Ingersoll. 

[elh1311]

The placement of the heat stamp leads me to think that this is an Ingersol. I don't really know much about Ingersols but the paint, texture, general condition and chinstraps seem to indicate mid to late 1960s production. 

 

The liner is much easier. Korean War-era CAPAC, this one produced in 1951. The way the a-yokes are attached is how they came from the factory. It's easy to confuse these with the rigger modified WWII produced liners. 

 

Sweatband is cotton as opposed to HBT so that leads me to believe it's a post 1955 sweatband. 

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Pretty sure the sweatband is 1962 contract. 

[Nickman983]

Believe what you have is a post WWII production M1 with a factory airborne liner.

 

The heatstamp does look a little different than other examples I've seen but I'm not an expert in post war M1s. I believe the heatstamp reads I12023. The first digit could be a 1 instead of an I but I don't recall heat stamps going over 4 digits.

 

The liner is definitely a factory airborne liner though.

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I think it’s 1202? or I 2023

 

any Ingersoll experts out there? 

[Burning Hazard]

Shell looks like late war McCord manufacture with heat stamp 1202S; looks like depot refurb.

 

Pat

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Thanks Pat

What type of chin strap would I need to complete the setup and what is the best source? 

[elh1311]

North and Judd paratrooper chinstraps. Either ebay or J. Murray. 

 

Cloth chincup for the a-yokes. 

[BEAR]

Nice helmet

 

BEAR

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Neckband is 1962 dated as well.

 

I purchased this at a local flea market. Seller didn’t know much about the helmet, but claimed it came from the estate of a SF vet. I bought the helmet and not the story! 

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On 8/29/2022 at 10:52 AM, elh1311 said:

North and Judd paratrooper chinstraps. Either ebay or J. Murray. 

 

Cloth chincup for the a-yokes. 

I already have the helmet chinstraps (see pics).

 

looking for a source for the correct liner chin cup. 

[elh1311]

22 minutes ago, gap said:

I already have the helmet chinstraps (see pics).

 

looking for a source for the correct liner chin cup. 

I think an OD7 chincup with "U.S." stamped on it would be correct for that set up. Ebay will have them, for sure. Not terribly expensive either. 

 

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There are a variety of styles, which is correct for 1961-1965 period? 

[Nickman983]

Here's a seller with multiple variations to choose from

 

https://www.ebay.com/itm/PARATROOPER-CHIN-STRAP-VIETNAM-ERA-NEW-NOS-M1-C-HELMET-LINER-AIRBORNE/281039088268

 

I think either B or C based on a pair I bought from a user on here a few years back. But it may be worth waiting for one of our airborne experts to chime in if you want to play it safe.

 

Fortunately the chin cups are fairly common. I'm actually trying to find a pair of those North and Judd paratrooper helmet chinstraps for a helmet I've got coming later this week but can't seem to find NOS for those anywhere.

[elh1311]

Chin cups seem to be really open. I haven't seen a definitive listing of what was made and when. Most people know that five-hole cups are without a doubt WWII. You can tell the ones made at the end of WWII and through Korea because they're a mustard color, four holes, will have a U.S. stamp, the thread is cotton and the portion of that goes across the chin seems to have a rounder shape as opposed to boxy when compared to later ones. 

 

After Korea, it seems a crapshoot. If memory serves me correctly, the U.S. stamp was removed in the latter half of the 1960's. I don't know about the different fonts. Some of the post-Korea chin cups have cotton thread as opposed to nylon and I think cotton thread are the earlier versions. 

 

I scoured this site for pinpoint answers, even started a thread on the "chin cup conundrum" a while back and what I wrote above seems to be the summary of the info that was offered. 

 

[Justin]

The type 'D' chin-cup in the ebay link Nickman983 posted would be the most correct IMO, that type is often found in 50s and early 60s M1C sets / liners. 

 

I agree with Pat that the shell is a WWII refurbished McCord. I have one identical to it even down to the packing material residue. 

 

Your OD clamps are unmarked, correct? 

 

Overall very nice helmet set. 

 

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On 10/5/2019 at 1:12 PM, Salvage Sailor said:

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Correct, unmarked chinstraps. 

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18 hours ago, Justin said:

The type 'D' chin-cup in the ebay link Nickman983 posted would be the most correct IMO, that type is often found in 50s and early 60s M1C sets / liners. 

 

I agree with Pat that the shell is a WWII refurbished McCord. I have one identical to it even down to the packing material residue. 

 

Your OD clamps are unmarked, correct? 

 

Overall very nice helmet set. 

 

Type D sold out! 
 

if anyone has one for sale or knows another source please let me know.