Luxenberg of NY, NY: examples and patterns

[Rattle]

I don't know but it looks like there are casting pits.

I don't want to be the bringer of bad news but i think this is a cast copy judging from the pictures.

 

Stephan

[joshypogi]

I don't know but it looks like there are casting pits.

I don't want to be the bringer of bad news but i think this is a cast copy judging from the pictures.

 

Stephan

 

 

I do not have the wing in my hand, so I can not definitely say its casting pits and can only be confirmed by a magnification device. How can you explain the silver frosting on the wing? Most Luxenbergs has this. Do you have a fake example for comparison?

[pfrost]

Hi,

 

Without holding it in hand, it is almost impossible to tell. I saw the auction and liked it and thought it was worth a bid or two if it looked like it was going to be a sleeper. Strangely, a clutch back wing seems to bring about 1/2 to 1/4 of what the pin back would be expected to bring.

 

Here is a close up of a rather blatant cast Luxenberg wing. Still, some of the better versions are harder to tell.

 

In your case, I actually like the wing. You rarely see casting marks on the front of wings, likely as a result of the casting process. Also, these wings likely still have much of the original silver finish, but where it has rubbed off, you get the underlying metal getting a nice dark patina. That frequently shows up as casting marks, when in fact, it is just an artifact of light and dark patina.

 

The only 100% way to tell is to actually hold them in hand and study with a loop. But, IMHO.... :thumbsup:

[joshypogi]

I do not have the wing in my hand, so I can not definitely say its casting pits and can only be confirmed by a magnification device. How can you explain the silver frosting on the wing? Most Luxenbergs has this. Do you have a fake example for comparison?

 

 

It could be that the layer of silver frosting has been chipped off in the particular area you pointed out..and appears to be a casting flaw? Anybody else has any opinion? I know there are Luxenberg experts in this forum!!!

[Rattle]

To be sure just wait and let's have it in your hand

 

Stephan

[joshypogi]

Hello Everyone,

 

Got this wing in my hand and upon closer inspection the pits looks like dings. I took some macro pictures of the suspected areas of concerns. Thank you in advance for all your feedback.

 

jason

[joshypogi]

More pics

[joshypogi]

last pic

[IMPERIAL QUEST]

If were a betting man, I would say that you got a winner. I can see very strong indications of sheer marking on the bottom of the shield edge, which is exactly what you want and expect to see on die struck piece. The post attachment method looks fine as well.

[joshypogi]

If were a betting man, I would say that you got a winner. I can see very strong indications of sheer marking on the bottom of the shield edge, which is exactly what you want and expect to see on die struck piece. The post attachment method looks fine as well.

 

 

Thank you for the fast reply. The seller gave me a picture of the pilot in uniform who owned the wing. It looks like he was wearing this exact wing, I will try to post it later.

[T-Bone]

WOW, those are beautiful wings. Since I was not paying attention, can I ask what the close was on the auction?

 

T

[John Cooper]

I liked then from the first photos and the macros seal the deal! I would have bought it but in general they always go for double what I am willing to pay.

 

Overall a very nice addition to you rapidly growing wing collection - are you up to about 3-5 per week?

 

John

[joshypogi]

I liked then from the first photos and the macros seal the deal! I would have bought it but in general they always go for double what I am willing to pay.

 

Overall a very nice addition to you rapidly growing wing collection - are you up to about 3-5 per week?

 

John

 

 

I try to collect the scarcer wings, particularly Luxenbergs because of the much better detailing their wing has. This hobby is pretty addictive and I try not to go overboard. I like the exitement and thrill of searching and looking so it is pretty rewarding and I learn about history at the same time.

 

John, thank you for your advices and comments.

 

Sicerely,

 

Jason

[joshypogi]

Here is a Luxenberg that has been cut down form a senior or command pilot. I do not have a command version so I compared to a senior pilot. I almost cried when I got this wing. Good news is I did not pay a lot for the cut down wing and is part of a lot and did not realized it was a Lux either. I wonder if it still has value or how much value it has loss. I am sure it has a story to tell and more likely that it was done during WWII..maybe all they had in the PX was a senior pilot and did not have a choice but to cut it down..who knows.

[joshypogi]

more pics.

[pconrad02]

Oh yes it still has value, it would be worth more as a Senior or (much more) a Command Pilot, but it's still a nice second pattern Lux. Since the alteration appears to be period, I would sweat it that much, now if someone had tried add the star that would be a different story!

[jcastellanos4]

Here is a Blackington pilot wing that has been altered like yours. What would be the purpose of cutting these down I wonder?? hmm.. :think:

[jcastellanos4]

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[Gary Cain]

I think they were probably not cut down but were more likely broken. The stars are prone to getting caught on things.

[AustinO]

I think they were probably not cut down but were more likely broken. The stars are prone to getting caught on things.

Like egos (oops!) Beautiful wings guys, even if they're "broke."

[B-17Guy]

Thanks for the information on the shirt size wings John.

 

Here is a boxed set of third pattern coat size Luxenberg's.

 

Cheer's,

 

John

[Insigina Hunter]

Congrats Paul, that sure is a beautiful wing

I'm afraid I am still a Lux "virgin" and have no wings by this manufacturer :crying:..I hope to get one soon!

 

Dave

my exact thoughts :/

[John Cooper]

Paul,

 

Killer find... I am jealous! I seem to be in a dry spell!

 

Wharfmaster - I feel that the pattern of wing you posted was made by SMILO. I based this on circumstantial evidence and my gut that this pattern and one other are frequently found in SMILO marked boxes. I know there has been some debate but too often is this pattern found in the above mentioned box to be brushed aside as just being a coincidence. If you search the term SMILO you will find several threads that will have some information you may find of use. This is just my opinion which can be changed as soon as an ad or maker catalog is found to tip the scales one way or the other.

 

Cheers

John

[lamarhooten]

Had shown these in the "New Finds" section and no one really had much to say. :ermm: Being a patch guy and only knowing enough to not pass on these, i thought they are something special. :think: Found the wing and badges in a coin dealers melt box. Might have to start asking other nonmilitary folks about their 'melt boxes'!! :thumbsup:

[lamarhooten]

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