bschwartz Posted March 5, 2012 #54 Posted March 5, 2012 Actually it looks very similar to a Blackinton pattern wing. Although the details in the upper right shoulder (as you look at it) have a few more feathers right in the edge of the shoulder than the typical Blackinton wing. Here's a link to one on my site to compare against.
erichjr Posted March 5, 2012 #55 Posted March 5, 2012 Actually it looks very similar to a Blackinton pattern wing. Although the details in the upper right shoulder (as you look at it) have a few more feathers right in the edge of the shoulder than the typical Blackinton wing. Here's a link to one on my site to compare against. At first i thought it might be a Blackington wing and then i saw a pasquale wing on you'r site that is just like this wing. Erich
bschwartz Posted March 5, 2012 #56 Posted March 5, 2012 That Pasquale wing has always been an oddball to me. I've never seen another one like it and the fact that it has the Pasquale name on it several times has been a bit of a red flag. I've never been able to disprove it as an original wing so I've kept it up there but I'd be more comfortable with it if it had some provenance. The guy who owns it is a knowledgeable collector and since he has the wing in hand I've always given it the benefit of the doubt. Your wing definitely falls in line with these two wings. I'd lean a bit more toward Blackinton making the wing though as I'm not sure Pasquale actually made their wings. I know there's been a lot of discussion about them on this site before so a little digging may turn up the answer.
pconrad02 Posted March 5, 2012 #57 Posted March 5, 2012 Erich That looks like an "issue" Blackington to me! Paul
erichjr Posted March 5, 2012 #58 Posted March 5, 2012 I think you are correct, a Blackington made wing. But blackington also did make wings for companys Pasquale and luxenberg.
pfrost Posted March 5, 2012 #59 Posted March 5, 2012 I think you are correct, a Blackington made wing. But blackington also did make wings for companys Pasquale and luxenberg. This is a relatively unique pattern of wings (a number of variations exist, however) that seem to trace back to Blackinton. You can find them marked Sterling by Blackinton, Luxenberg, and Pasquale, and unmarked. Both Luxenberg and Pasquale apparently used Blackinton as manufacturers of many of of their insignia, including wings. So, that all makes sense. You also find a very similar wing hallmarked with the Kinney Co name (see below). Apparently, they also used Blackinton as a source of their insignia. I have the Kinney Co version of this wing, and I tend to think that these are pre-war. While not exact matches to the Blackinton/Luxenberg/Pasquale strike, they are clearly kissing cousins. I also have a gold flight instructor version of the wing and a similar, unmarked version.
Jack's Son Posted March 6, 2012 #60 Posted March 6, 2012 I thought they were Blackington when I saw them. Not because I had overwhelming evidence, but because they have that beautiful Blackingtom or Lux look about them.
CliffP Posted March 6, 2012 #61 Posted March 6, 2012 That Pasquale wing has always been an oddball to me. I've never seen another one like it and the fact that it has the Pasquale name on it several times has been a bit of a red flag. I've never been able to disprove it as an original wing so I've kept it up there but I'd be more comfortable with it if it had some provenance. The guy who owns it is a knowledgeable collector and since he has the wing in hand I've always given it the benefit of the doubt. Your wing definitely falls in line with these two wings. I'd lean a bit more toward Blackinton making the wing though as I'm not sure Pasquale actually made their wings. I know there's been a lot of discussion about them on this site before so a little digging may turn up the answer. There are three things about the Pasquale wing on Bob's website that I like. (1) Pasquale did not make their own wings. (2) Blackinton was the only firm that made wings for Pasquale. (3) Being stamped "Pasquale SF" on the back rather than "Pasquale" gives the wing even greater creditability. That fact does not apply to other forms of legitimate insignia sold by them, some of which was only marked "Pasquale".
Wingcommander Posted March 20, 2012 #62 Posted March 20, 2012 Greetings Gents. Just got this.....your thoughts?
Wingcommander Posted March 20, 2012 #69 Posted March 20, 2012 :thumbsup: nice. Really? I posted this wing because to me it seemed a little thin.......It's a beautiful wing, but I wasn't really sure. I totally trust the seller, but wasn't 100% on the wing as it's so much more "fine" than my other wings. What about the irregular shape of the top view of the shield.....is that the die break? Thanks for your input!
pfrost Posted March 21, 2012 #70 Posted March 21, 2012 Really? I posted this wing because to me it seemed a little thin.......It's a beautiful wing, but I wasn't really sure. I totally trust the seller, but wasn't 100% on the wing as it's so much more "fine" than my other wings. What about the irregular shape of the top view of the shield.....is that the die break? Thanks for your input! Yep, I have one just like yours. For what ever reason, they made this particular wing using "finer" material. Whether this was a cost saving strategy or just a design feature, I don't know. You will more frequently find this pattern marked with either Blackinton or Luxenberg (and much more rarely Pasquale). Those wings are more robust, using a heavier metal planchet. A similar (likely pre-war) pattern is found with the Kenny Co mark and those are also more robust. But, I would not have any doubts in the world about these being good (and IMHO early) pre-war/WWII vintage wings. Patrick
Jack's Son Posted March 21, 2012 #71 Posted March 21, 2012 I like the Blackingtom and Lux Wing patterns. Very nice!
John Cooper Posted March 21, 2012 #72 Posted March 21, 2012 Super wing - I have a twin of this wing although it has a C clasp... the feathering details as well as the shoulders are super! Cheers John
Wingcommander Posted March 22, 2012 #73 Posted March 22, 2012 Thanks to all for your replies. I contacted the seller originally for a different reason, glad I did as this wing came up in discussion.....a quick seal of the deal meant it was on it's way home! Cheers!
Costa Posted October 12, 2012 #74 Posted October 12, 2012 JUST WONDERING IF THIS BLACKINTON S IS ANY GOOD--- NEVER HAVE SEEN ONE BEFORE.
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