Noelle Posted July 4, 2022 Author Share #26 Posted July 4, 2022 1 hour ago, manayunkman said: If the pins are soldered correctly I would think it’s original. Am I wrong? You probably know more than I do at this point. :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rathbonemuseum.com Posted July 5, 2022 Share #27 Posted July 5, 2022 On 7/4/2022 at 12:37 PM, Noelle said: There were also: https://www.ebay.com/itm/144604913844 https://www.ebay.com/itm/144604742549 and https://www.ebay.com/itm/314038620081 in addition to https://www.ebay.com/itm/314012177442 None of these are good wings. Both diamond (lozenge) graduation wings are cast. Show soft, uneven edges, pitting and uneven hallmark. The numbered class wings are well known reproductions with incorrect finish, casting marks, incorrect findings, incorrect shields etc. These are reproductions made and sold by He Who Shall Not Be Named. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noelle Posted July 5, 2022 Author Share #28 Posted July 5, 2022 1 hour ago, rathbonemuseum.com said: None of these are good wings. Both diamond (lozenge) graduation wings are cast. Show soft, uneven edges, pitting and uneven hallmark. The numbered class wings are well known reproductions with incorrect finish, casting marks, incorrect findings, incorrect shields etc. These are reproductions made and sold by He Who Shall Not Be Named. Ah!! So THIS is the guy who is He Who Shall Not be Named! I’ve heard reference to someone, and haven’t been able to get a name. He currently has this set listed: https://www.ebay.com/itm/314062163273 I asked about those other pins on another post, and learned a lot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dmar836 Posted July 5, 2022 Share #29 Posted July 5, 2022 Not necessarily. There are many fakes out there. I'll share a story that most here have heard before. Take it for what it's worth. My father had a friend who was retired FBI agent. He was a counterfeit bill specialist. He said when he was trained they spent hours upon hours, days upon days, studying, not the known fake bills but only original, authentic bills - everything about them. He said it was the standard to do so because studying the fakes did little good in the field. Only by knowing the authentic items in and out and very thoroughly was one instinctively able to tell when one wasn't right. Not because they knew all the wrong stuff to look for. The point, again take it for what it's worth, is that it is dangerous to become confident by being able to identify the common marks of a fake or a specific faker. It's is helpful at a cursory level, of course, but it's easy to "check all the boxes" and be assured only to have a new box you've never heard about and didn't know to check for. Fakes are always changing and your knowledge should be thoroughly grounded in the study of authentic items. JMO. Good luck! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bschwartz Posted July 5, 2022 Share #30 Posted July 5, 2022 22 minutes ago, Noelle said: Ah!! So THIS is the guy who is He Who Shall Not be Named! That is not the guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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