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onsilverwings

Recently acquired a split wrap broach SSM with a serial in the 17xxx range. Pre ww2 at least. Ww1? 

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USMCR79

Possibly issued in WWII - If it was unnamed than it was issued in WWII - what is the number because some are traceable

 

Bill

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onsilverwings

 Unnamed. It came with a cased DFM (unnamed), an unnamed GCM, and a really nice ww2 Australian made 5th AF patch. 

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onsilverwings

 Unnamed. It came with a cased DFM (unnamed), an unnamed GCM, and a really nice ww2 Australian made 5th AF patch. No evidence they necessarily belong together…

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USMCR79

Silver Star 17718 is not on the roll - do you mean DFC - DFM is British 

 

 

Bill

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onsilverwings

Not DFM. My mistake. It is a cased Air Medal

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onsilverwings

So it’s not on the roll. It would still have been awarded in WW2?

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USMCR79

I have  #19712 in my collection - unnamed but traceable by number - late 1942 award to a 1st AMD Division Tank Commander for North Africa

 

Bill

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onsilverwings

So early 42 or before. I’m curious. How do you tell if it’s Army or Navy or is there no difference? Somewhere I seem to have read “short” ribbon? And thank you for your research. Is the “roll” you refer to available online? 

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USMCR79

Navy Silver Stars are unnumbered and have a full wrap brown frosted broach (These were made by the US Mint) - If it is numbered it is from an Army procurement - yours should have a stiff ribbon with a split broach and is from the original 1932 Bailey Banks & Biddle US Army procurement - I found the roll somewhere on line years ago - the email for the guy who would have more answers regarding the roll is info@etsproductionsllc.com.

 

If you are starting to get into medal collecting "The Call of Duty" by Strandburg & Bender and "Sacrifice Remembered" by Dave Schwind 

 

Bill

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onsilverwings

Not necessarily getting into medals. I’ve been a collector since I was a kid in the 60’s. My first purchase was with paper route $. I bought a civil/indian wars kepi, forage cap and cartridge box with buff belt all for $30. All 7th NY. And all id’d to 3 different ppl. I have a large wing collection (2-300), @40 M1 helmets, etc etc. have most of the medal tree just never spent much time on them. I found these yesterday and knew it was a good buy but gonna Flip these so trying to get some background info. I seriously appreciate all your input…..

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onsilverwings

And yes. Split broach and stiff ribbon. 

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doyler

check the attachment lug in the top of the silver star point(revese side) may have a makers marking.

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onsilverwings

Lol. Good pic. Completely missed it so small. BBBCO. Phila

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GIKyle

Bailey, Banks, and Biddle of Philly - Given what all came together its likely an award to a 5th AF guy - there are quite a few known groups to 5th AF guys with this type of medal in those groups, though I am not sure of the medal numbers within those group.  A good find nonetheless! 

 

Kyle 

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KASTAUFFER

Did you check to see if there is a number on the back of the Air Medal brooch?

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onsilverwings

Nothing at all on the air medal. And the email I received as a possible source for further info does not deliver

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