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Recently found this shell among a few good M1 helmets. Thoughts on the D loop? The Heat stamp is unreadable. I have no high hopes, but would like to hear expert opinions on the D loops. Thank youIMG_20211121_103223.jpg.113ba3c188604d14b334a1d8ab50b3b9.jpgIMG_20211121_103251.jpg.2001173c069218fe53f3ae217aef4831.jpgIMG_20211121_103150.jpg.ba970f6758748430228779d833749b8b.jpgIMG_20211121_103202.jpg.2289eb7e7a801fb5467a526432da9afa.jpg

 

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Here are some more photos of the straps and helmet. Tried to make photos in a photobooth, because there is hardly any sun today. The spades appear to be repainted by a 2nd layer. I honestly did not gave it much chance for being original, but the D loops got me doubting.IMG_20211121_162717.jpg.f3b6529a9b1ef29f2dff765be31d64ac.jpgIMG_20211121_162532.jpg.2a02b0b37c8c5eaaa645adeb6b7a22f7.jpgIMG_20211121_162652.jpg.435870d5b1835587ab639893d876de8b.jpgIMG_20211121_162640.jpg.cb7278f527061e0d632b10084ae9985d.jpgIMG_20211121_162631.jpg.27b039fa6cc888fb1f6d4cd2fffa2086.jpgIMG_20211121_162614.jpg.9b5163836e7284667d1acd5694616194.jpgIMG_20211121_162602.jpg.718f57054f7138c0141aa63aee8dc5ce.jpgIMG_20211121_162542.jpg.50f3e6f5f3aa343b8e3e5e8095a69e3d.jpgIMG_20211121_162517.jpg.d7304b5cfa9b4a8dd4f767b9e85771ac.jpgIMG_20211121_105203.jpg.38af8be711099ea32155c8c1b54346ef.jpgIMG_20211121_162444.jpg.e51680272715563e2f75877e5496f940.jpg

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Burning Hazard

I don't mean to be that guy but those chinstraps have green verdigris on the snaps, which means they are brass; M2 helmet chinstraps always had nickel plated snaps.

 

 Also, I noticed the M2 D-bail feet don't match original and the wire seems slightly more thicker than originals?

 

My opinion is this M2 is a very good reproduction.

 

Pictures of originals M2 chinstraps and D-Bail to compare below. (Sorry for the small pics but both are 100% original from Mark Bando's collection and acquired directly from vets).

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Thank you for the responses. I will check the snaps better on the corrosion. I don't know how or if nickle corrodes. It does look greener on the photos than in real. The helmet came out of an old collection which was held in a large shed. Also added a photo of the loops with measurements (in cm).

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On 11/21/2021 at 1:19 PM, Burning Hazard said:

I don't mean to be that guy but those chinstraps have green verdigris on the snaps, which means they are brass; M2 helmet chinstraps always had nickel plated snaps.

 

 Also, I noticed the M2 D-bail feet don't match original and the wire seems slightly more thicker than originals?

 

My opinion is this M2 is a very good reproduction.

 

Pictures of originals M2 chinstraps and D-Bail to compare below. (Sorry for the small pics but both are 100% original from Mark Bando's collection and acquired directly from vets).

FixedbaleSimmons.jpg

Real D Bail.jpg

 

Agreed. 

 

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Also, the helmet in question has had its interior refinished. Inner shell paint is too thick. Web straps do not look correct either. The webbing may even be period, but the strap ensemble does not sit correctly and naturally as something that should have been shaped by constant contact with the shell over decades.

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IMO this is a bad M2. I agree with above statements made. The loops are too thick, reminds me of those faked helmets that came out of Holland many moons ago. 

 

The chinstraps are fabrications or good reproductions, note the raised edging on the chinstrap, (best seen in post #8) where it becomes slightly discolored, that's a bad detail found on reproduction chinstraps, the bar tacting also doesn't look authentic, and the hardware is incorrect for an authentic M2.

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Thank you all for your opinions. So my first feeling was correct, a repro. But it looked so well done it had me doubting myself. Learned a lot

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On 12/10/2021 at 3:10 AM, ccmax said:

Also, the helmet in question has had its interior refinished. Inner shell paint is too thick.

 

Maybe to conceal the conversion of the loops?

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