CDGman Posted November 19, 2021 Share #1 Posted November 19, 2021 Hi all, I am back again looking for your expertise in identification. 1) Two MG34? mounts. They fit onto the previous posted tripod mounts (Drebeins?). Is that their purpose to just create a higher elevated mount? 2) Unknown grenade attachment. 3) Soviet cap, tried researching on my own but can't identify if armed forces or civil, nor what the accoutrements might symbolize. 4) Various munitions we found in a box. All inert. The main items are the bottom two, the top one, and the blue and yellow one marked "Bomb frag" Thank you again! Link to comment
268th C.A. Posted November 19, 2021 Share #2 Posted November 19, 2021 Try the World Militaria Forum sister web site.... Link to comment
illinigander Posted November 19, 2021 Share #3 Posted November 19, 2021 Is that a CN stamped on the grenade? Would it be intended for CN gas? illinigander Link to comment
CDGman Posted November 20, 2021 Author Share #4 Posted November 20, 2021 11 minutes ago, illinigander said: Is that a CN stamped on the grenade? Would it be intended for CN gas? illinigander It's marked 3 in this image. RFX on the opposite side. Link to comment
Taber10 Posted November 23, 2021 Share #5 Posted November 23, 2021 Since no one else has offered any identification of the munitions, I might as well take a shot at it: Top item is some version of MECAR's ENERGA Rifle Grenade. It has been adopted by most NATO countries, and thus comes in a variety of paint schemes, tail fin configurations and practice versions. Yours has been apparently repainted, making exact ID difficult. The "blue and yellow" item is a submunition or bomblet of the BLU-24 series. A Vietnam era munition used in a variety of cluster bomb units, such as the CBU-25, a multi-tube dispenser. Again, the paint scheme is NOT original, as best I can tell. The second from bottom item is a HEAT projectile, probably from a 106mm Recoilless Rifle round. It is fin-stabilized, as a spin stabilization is not helpful to the shape charge function of the warhead. The fuze is located at the tip of the nose boom, providing standoff for the shape charge. While again this round has been repainted--inaccurately also--you should find some sort of stamped markings/nomenclature despite the paint. The bottom item is a kinetic penetrator from a APFSDS round, I'm guessing a 105mm tank gun. But hard to id without more accurate measurements. Hope this helps. Link to comment
SubgunFun Posted November 24, 2021 Share #6 Posted November 24, 2021 I agree with Taber10 on the top being Enegra and the bottom being penetrator. As for the blue/yellow, Tabor10 looks correct on that too... but I'm not familiar with the BLU-24. However, second up from bottom is a projectile for the 90mm M67 Recoilless Rifle. I'd love to have it in my collection. ;-) And the other items are very nice pieces too. Certainly better than the standard stuff you see around. If your #2 item is a real device, I'd suspect it to be quite rare as I've never seen anything quite like that. Nice grouping. Link to comment
917601 Posted November 25, 2021 Share #7 Posted November 25, 2021 I know all the ordnance except for the OD grenade with the waffle top and am baffled by it. Nothing in the TMs about it.Experimental? Fantasy piece? Can you unscrew the waffle top for a look at the fuze powder train? Link to comment
Inertord Posted November 26, 2021 Share #8 Posted November 26, 2021 The grenade has a U.S. M1 Concussion Detonator affixed to it. Link to comment
SubgunFun Posted November 29, 2021 Share #10 Posted November 29, 2021 Wow. Very cool mechanism. Interesting how salt pellets are used for delayed arming under water. Thanks InertOrd for ID'ing this one for everyone. Link to comment
CDGman Posted December 10, 2021 Author Share #11 Posted December 10, 2021 Once again you all amaze me with your knowledge! Link to comment
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