joaobr Posted August 20, 2021 Share #1 Posted August 20, 2021 I bought this M1 helmet recently in Brazil. The liner is a Seaman Paper Co. There is a small "S" mark with a "16" underneath. What does this "16" under the manufacturer's mark mean? The shell has a rear mark on the rim. Which means it was produced between November 1944 and August 1945. But I couldn't find the factory numbering inside the front flap. What do you think? I appreciate your opinions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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elh1311 Posted August 20, 2021 Share #3 Posted August 20, 2021 Well, the "S" typically indicates a Schlueter-produced helmet. However, the 16 would indicate an early production model, with front seam and fixed bales. Maybe there are more numbers alongside the 16 than just the 16 itself, like 516? The pic of the heat stamp is kind of fuzzy so hard to see what exactly you're describing. That all being said, it's a nice looking set. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justin Posted August 20, 2021 Share #4 Posted August 20, 2021 Most likely just a light stamp, all the details are correct for a WWII McCord. Check with an LED flashlight, sometimes the stamp is close to the brim, sometimes you can only make out part of the heat stamp. Nice looking one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Rooster Posted August 20, 2021 Share #5 Posted August 20, 2021 Nice one agree with all. What ever you do.... do not remove the paint to try and read the number. Removing the paint to read the number, ruins the helmet for collectors. Just hold it in the light at different angles and you should be able to make out the number. Its a nice rear seam Schluter made WW2 lid with a nice WW2 liner ! Score !!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phantomfixer Posted August 20, 2021 Share #6 Posted August 20, 2021 I might be wrong, but I think he is talking about the liner S 16 not a heat stamp S 16 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joaobr Posted August 20, 2021 Author Share #7 Posted August 20, 2021 2 hours ago, The Rooster said: Bom, concorda com todos. Faça o que fizer .... não remova a tinta para tentar ler o número. Remover a tinta para ler o número estraga o capacete dos colecionadores. Basta segurá-lo contra a luz em ângulos diferentes e você conseguirá distinguir o número. É uma boa costura traseira que Schluter fez a tampa da 2ª Guerra Mundial com um forro da 2ª Guerra Mundial! Pontuação !!! That's right the S 16 stamp is on the liner. As for the steel helmet, I have already looked at it very carefully and with the help of a light, there is no stamped marking Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burning Hazard Posted August 20, 2021 Share #8 Posted August 20, 2021 The "16" under the "S" inside the liner is actually the mould number for factory quality control. S = Seaman Paper Co. Pat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joaobr Posted August 21, 2021 Author Share #9 Posted August 21, 2021 I also got these chinstraps. I don't know if they are originals or replicas. I believe they could be post-war replicas. What do you think? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burning Hazard Posted August 21, 2021 Share #10 Posted August 21, 2021 Leather liner chinstraps are not WWII US made - they look like post-war clones as the square cut leather and riveting are incorrect. Pat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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