Help identifying these...

[Howlingriffon]

I have accumulated a few of these over the years but really have no idea about them.  

The one on the left in first pic (right in 2nd) seems to have a SS rim, well, half of a rim.  I did strip that one and gave a practice run at refinishing.  Think I'm going to go with a little more brown in the OD.  At first I thought that one was a high dome the opposite end one a low dome.  After lining them up, I don't trust my eyes as to what the heck these are.  I am going to get some of the books but haven't had a chance yet.  My luck they are all 80's...

 

 

 

 

 

 

If all else is trash, at least I know these are good :)

 

 

 

 

 

As always, thank you for your assistance and consideration.

Jason

[Bodes]

 

Liner on the left is Vietnam era into the eighties....The one on the right is WW2...Bodes

[MattS]

4 M1 helmets (the buckled on chin straps on the far left shell predate the angled clip-on ones to its right)

2 ACHs

2 M1 liners

I’ve shared this multiple times, but here’s a flow chart I created to help date liners. The removable webbing in the green liner makes it a late model. The WW2 SP liner can be identified by the maker stamp in the crown. 

[Howlingriffon]

Nice chart!  I saved a copy of that.  

[mikie]

18 hours ago, MattS said:

4 M1 helmets (the buckled on chin straps on the far left shell predate the angled clip-on ones to its right)

2 ACHs

2 M1 liners

I’ve shared this multiple times, but here’s a flow chart I created to help date liners. The removable webbing in the green liner makes it a late model. The WW2 SP liner can be identified by the maker stamp in the crown. 

Brilliant.  Nicely done!

 

Mikie

[Howlingriffon]

Any help on what period the pots are?

[Justin]

2 hours ago, Howlingriffon said:

Any help on what period the pots are?

Could you give the heat stamps? 

[Howlingriffon]

These are all I could make out.  Don't see any letters on any of them.

 

 

 

 

 

 

[MattS]

Something to keep in mind about M1s, when the shell was made and when the shell was last used can vary by 45 years or more. A WW2 manufactured shell that was reworked and repainted a dozen times could still have been in service in 1990, but no longer in its original factory configuration. For example, I don't know when the second shell from the left was made, but I can tell you those angled clip-on straps date to after 1973. 

[dmar836]

What about looking at the 5th pic? The shell on the left has a pronounced bill whereas the shell on the far right has a relatively short bill. Is that just mfg or is that earlier/later or even Euro differences? Not all heat stamps have been provided.

On 7/27/2021 at 10:43 AM, Howlingriffon said:

 

 

 

[Howlingriffon]

That is all of the stamps that I can find.  I don't want to start stripping paint until I have some idea if it's a good idea or not.  If any of these are worth restoring, I'll do that.  If not, they'll be displays for helmet covers :)

I also need to figure out what era liners to get.  I have the one WW2 era SP painted but I know 100% that is the real deal so don't want to mess it up.

[MattS]

2 hours ago, Howlingriffon said:

That is all of the stamps that I can find.  I don't want to start stripping paint until I have some idea if it's a good idea or not.  If any of these are worth restoring, I'll do that.  If not, they'll be displays for helmet covers :)

I also need to figure out what era liners to get.  I have the one WW2 era SP painted but I know 100% that is the real deal so don't want to mess it up.

I think most collectors would advise against sanding down original paint to expose a lot number which is largely useless anyway. You’re doing more harm than good. As none of those shells have a complete set of chin straps, adding late style sets to any of them would be appropriate. Covers (Mitchell, ERDL, or Woodland) would work too. 

[twthmoses]

On 8/2/2021 at 4:23 AM, Howlingriffon said:

Any help on what period the pots are?

Judging by the heats stamp provided. The first, 1-82xx, is a 60’s Ingersoll shell. There is two numbers more to the stamp (xx). Ingersoll are always four numbers and preceded by zero if less, like 1-0131. The second, 2652, is a 68-70 Parish Division of the Dana Corporation stamp. Easy spotted by the curve on the 6 and 5 (3 and 9 too). The third I cannot really see, but could be a Mccord ww2 stamp, but would not put a bet on that!

 

Judging by your line up of the four helmets, from left to right. 1 and 2 are post ww2 shells. Guess the 2 is the Ingersoll shell and 1 the Dana shell. 3-4 could both be ww2 shells. I’m 70/30% sure that they are. Post close up of the loops and the seam, and it is easy seen.

[Howlingriffon]

Thank you. I’ll post some more Sunday or Monday of the loops.  I did pick up a VERY salty helmet with ERDL cover today and looking at the pot, it is a front seam and I’m pretty sure the liner is WW2 😎. I’ll post those also. 

 

[doyler]