ocsfollowme Posted June 27, 2021 Share #1 Posted June 27, 2021 Greetings and thanks in advance. I am cleaning out my drawers of patches and found these two. I know that they are pre-WW2. In order to list it properly, is there a better date range to call it as? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sigsaye Posted June 27, 2021 Share #2 Posted June 27, 2021 14 hours ago, ocsfollowme said: Greetings and thanks in advance. I am cleaning out my drawers of patches and found these two. I know that they are pre-WW2. In order to list it properly, is there a better date range to call it as? According to John A. Stacey, in his book on Naval insignia, this pattern was in use from 1894-1905. The 3rd Class is the only one referred to as “Coxswain” , (kept that title until 1948, when it was changed to BM3, Boatswains Mate Third Class). The 2 chevron is Boatswains Mate Second Class, (written, until 1948, as BM2c ). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ocsfollowme Posted June 27, 2021 Author Share #3 Posted June 27, 2021 As always, thank you for your time sigsaye! I saw the category online but I did not believe that they dated that far back! Happy Sunday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Minton Posted June 29, 2021 Share #4 Posted June 29, 2021 According to John A. Stacey, in his book on Naval insignia, this pattern was in use from 1894-1905. The 3rd Class is the only one referred to as “Coxswain” , (kept that title until 1948, when it was changed to BM3, Boatswains Mate Third Class). The 2 chevron is Boatswains Mate Second Class, (written, until 1948, as BM2c ). I would have identified these as 1905 pattern, so I’m curious as to what you are seeing that would distinguish them as 1894. Please take this as a serious question and not sarcasm.This is what I would have thought of as 1894, though it is white rather than blue.Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sigsaye Posted June 30, 2021 Share #5 Posted June 30, 2021 9 hours ago, David Minton said: I would have identified these as 1905 pattern, so I’m curious as to what you are seeing that would distinguish them as 1894. Please take this as a serious question and not sarcasm. This is what I would have thought of as 1894, though it is white rather than blue. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk The book had them listed as 1894-1905. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
navyman Posted July 4, 2021 Share #6 Posted July 4, 2021 I would say pre 1905 the chevrons are sewn like the 1880's rate and similar material for chevrons. The eagle stance is different as well, the feet are spread farther apart. But the big difference to me is the chevrons and how they are sewn on. I believe the above example is the one i own and i have a couple others but are moth up pretty good. Jason Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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