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US Special Force Green beret.


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Tonomachi

I thought I would attached photos of the beret for you and others to view.  It is hard to say if this is a genuine beret as it is not one of the ones everyone is looking for.  This beret flash looks authentic and was used from about 1964 through 1985.  You can still find these flashes and the beret badges so anyone can sew one onto any green beret.   

 

The early green berets were made in Canada and have a large white printed vertical triangle onto a black lining with the following white printed wording from top to bottom which reads, GENUINE, Fleur de Lis, BERET, number for the size of the beret followed by the year of manufacture, Dorothea Knitting Mills, LIMITED and Toronto.   

 

The US made berets have white printing as well on a black lining from top to bottom that reads, BERET MAN'S WOOL, Rifle Green, DSA followed by a series of numbers with sometimes the last two digits of the year of manufacture, another series of numbers and the size is perpendicular to the right side of these number.  You can actually date these US berets if it is a pre or post 1970 beret by the stitching along a rectangular piece of leather sewn over the air vents along the inside of the lining.  Usually the lining is torn out so the stitching is the only way to date these types of berets.  I believe someone is making copies of these berets.

 

There is another either post war or late war US made beret that was made by Bancroft the early ones having a gold lining and later ones will have a black lining with a white printed label. 

 

You sometimes come across a British made green beret that has an elongated vertical triangle with a translucent plastic covering and white printed wording on a black lining from top to bottom which reads, 100% WOOL, MORRY, LUXENBERG, Co., MILITARY OUTFITTERS, NEW YORK, MADE IN ENGLAND and at the bottom the size number. 

 

Lastly you come across South Vietnamese made green berets by various manufactures.  There are copies of these berets so you have to be careful.  

 

This beret has a tiny label that looks torn in half and might say 57 and SPECIAL.  I believe 57 is an European size designator so this could be a European made beret.  It could be authentic but I would pass on it and look for one of the above mentioned berets.  

 

 

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Thank you Tonomachi, for the detailed description. About size 57? You are absolutely right, scream European. 

 

All the best 

Syd

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Blacksmith

I also, vaguely, recall their being some implication to the color of yellow on the 5th SFG flash.  Like the pale yellow was during Vietnam, and the brighter orange-yellow was later - I could have those switched.  Doyler will know.  

 

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manayunkman

Here is one I just got, shaved with removed liner and attributed to the vet. 

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KommandoPost

I thought this thread would be a good place to post this.  East Asia Supply Co. out of Hong Kong is reproducing the green berets, complete with Canadian markings.  Here are the pictures of the copy from here: https://www.facebook.com/eastasiasupply/photos/pcb.3569626459929833/3569625446596601/

As of right now, they are in sizes 58 (7-1/4) and 60 cm, and they're relatively recent so I don't think any have been used for fakes yet, but as we all know it's just a matter of time...

 

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The chap selling it, say it's made in Europe for the US bases in Germany. 

Have a hard time beliving that, but I won't try and win the auction. 

I appreciate all the answers here, thanks 😊

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On 6/21/2021 at 12:44 PM, Blacksmith said:

I also, vaguely, recall their being some implication to the color of yellow on the 5th SFG flash.  Like the pale yellow was during Vietnam, and the brighter orange-yellow was later - I could have those switched.  Doyler will know.  

 

@doyler

 

 

To me the flash is a later version. The ones I see the most on berets prior to 1980 have the lemon yellow color bend w/ red stripes the more gold color I have encountered on later berets. 

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Here’s a ‘65 issue beret, manufactured by Dorothea Knitting Mills, Toronto.  *Note…Unlike the copycat beret above, the stitches on the leather are not visible on the outside of the beret

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