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Hello 

 

in order to write a small article about m43 shovels, I would like your help about some questions :

 

- Between the 3 makers of M43 dated 1943 shovel ( AFH, Ames, Wood), which one do you think is the rarest to find ? 
 

- Which is the number of M43 dated 1943 shovels ever made ? The proportion ( % ) ?

 

- I believe these shovels were made on late 1943… between what month and what month ? 

 

- What range of price could we ask for a 1943 set ?

here you have one of my finest example. 
 

Best regards  

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Thanks for your help 

 
do you have one exemplar to show me ? 
 

Have you an idéa about the number of shovel made by these companies between September 1943 and end of December 1943 ?

 

thanks 

 

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General Apathy
2 hours ago, French44 said:

No one ? :(

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Hi French44,

 

Here are details of the M43 shovel made in WWII, the figures have to be multiplied by thousands ( three 000's )

 

1940/1945   13,882,000 ( Total M1910 & M1943 )

 

1940.  none. ( WWI stocks M1910 )

1941.   none. ( WWI stocks M1910 )

1942.  149,000 ( M1910 Ames dated 1942 )

1943.  1,237,000  ( M1910 Ames dated 1943 & M1943 )

1944.  6,744,000  ( M1943 )

1945.  5,752,000  ( M1943 )

 

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cheers lewis.

 

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Thank you General  👋

 

Are these numbers only for Ames or it counts Ames+ AFH+Wood ? 
 

BR

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General Apathy

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M43 shovel & cover . . . . . . .

 

I recently sold the majority of my collection, I sold my Ames & Wood  examples and kept this A.F. & H. Co. 1943 example, with a first pattern cover ( none-moveable rear hook ) J.A. Shoe 1943.

 

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regards lewis.

 

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General Apathy
7 minutes ago, French44 said:

Thank you General  👋

 

Are these numbers only for Ames or it counts Ames+ AFH+Wood ? 
 

BR

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Hi French44,

 

The figure of 13,882,000 is total WWII war production ( 1940-1945 ) of all makes and models M1910 & M1943.

 

regards lewis.

 

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ThompsonSavage
On 6/9/2021 at 4:23 AM, armysoldierant1944 said:

Ames, in my opinion, is the hardest one to find

I don't know where you are from, but here in the ETO Ames shovels are abundant... It took me years to find a 43 dated AF&H.

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armysoldierant1944
1 hour ago, ThompsonSavage said:

I don't know where you are from, but here in the ETO Ames shovels are abundant... It took me years to find a 43 dated AF&H.

Oh, I just realized I had a typo. AFH is the hardest one to find. Both starting with the letter "A", I inadvertently typed Ames. Yes, AFH is the hardest, and it took me years to fins an AFH dated 1943. I am from the Philippines and the AFH 1943 was an eBay USA find. Richard

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I think you are right because If you look on ébay or other WS you couldn’t find any AFH or very few but you could find (scarcely though) AMES and WOOD 1943 

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