Blueprint Posted May 25, 2021 Share #1 Posted May 25, 2021 Greetings collectors! I thought it necessary to create a topic solely on showing your M1s with Hawley liners and/or Hawley liners, to give these early helmet liners the credit the own and also for further reference etc. So, feel free to post! Yours Blueprint Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blueprint Posted May 25, 2021 Author Share #2 Posted May 25, 2021 I'll start right of the bat with this early M1 helmet with a first pattern Hawley liner. It's a FS FB McCord #170 and comes with the 2nd type of brass chinstrap buckle and also with the early shortened chinstraps. The Hawley is a nicely used 1st pattern model with rayon suspension, a nice intact leather chinstrap and also with a neatly Major's insignia painted on the front. The liner belonged at one point to two owners. One was "Kincaid" and the other to a "JDC". One of them must've been the Major who had painted the insignia on the liner and on the front of the shell (there just remnants of yellow chark visible there). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blueprint Posted May 25, 2021 Author Share #3 Posted May 25, 2021 The second one is my fixed bail McCord with early short chinstraps on it and a heatstamp of "28XA"! The shell owns a nice patina and two stress-cracks on the rear. Inside is a nice Hawley liner, 3rd type bearing the name of the owner outside as well inside, on the headband. I assume that this is even a "General Fabric" piece because there's a faint visible "G" near the dome. The helmet belonged to "Louis E. Mertz, jr." USMC, who was a photographic reconnaisance member of VMD-254 in the south pacific. Here's the link to the topic of the helmet: Yours Blueprint Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Rooster Posted May 25, 2021 Share #4 Posted May 25, 2021 heres mine Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blueprint Posted May 25, 2021 Author Share #5 Posted May 25, 2021 Looks like it was hanging in a garage and was accidentally sprayed at one point. Very nice! Looks also like Marine stamps? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
airborneguy44 Posted May 25, 2021 Share #6 Posted May 25, 2021 Here’s two that are currently in my collection. One is a full set, with the FB shell having a heat stamp of 56A and cast buckle chinstraps. The other is a high quality, seemingly unissued liner. I don’t have high quality pictures of the lone liner, so I will be using the pictures from the sellers description. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blueprint Posted May 25, 2021 Author Share #7 Posted May 25, 2021 Great! That’s nearly as mint as it can get! One day I need to get a shell with casted buckles...still on my bucket list. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
airborneguy44 Posted May 25, 2021 Share #8 Posted May 25, 2021 21 minutes ago, Blueprint said: Great! That’s nearly as mint as it can get! One day I need to get a shell with casted buckles...still on my bucket list. Thank you, I was hunting it down for a long time! I also forgot to add this one, should be here in the next day or two! Named to a Lt. Col who flew C-46’s, 47’s, 97’s, 119’s and 130’s. Cast buckle straps on this one too, and plenty of research that needs to be done! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blueprint Posted May 25, 2021 Author Share #9 Posted May 25, 2021 Great! Keep us updated! But this helmet might deserves his own thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paddyd00 Posted May 26, 2021 Share #10 Posted May 26, 2021 Awesome liners and lids guys! And great thread Hannes! I have not a Hawley in sight :( all high pressure liners in my collection. (one of these days Dave I’ll be knocking on your door for that one if it’s still around). Z Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iron bender Posted May 26, 2021 Share #11 Posted May 26, 2021 Here's a couple of my favs. The 1st Lt. I bought from a seller off of ebay out of New York in the late 90's, and I'm pretty sure I got the other from AbramsAntiques off ebay 5 years back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blueprint Posted May 26, 2021 Author Share #12 Posted May 26, 2021 @Paddyd00 A hawley lid was long on my bucket list too. Believe at one day the one you want is there! @iron bender Lovely! Love the salty look of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
agate hunter Posted May 26, 2021 Share #13 Posted May 26, 2021 First one is a FB grey painted M1 with Hawley, was a gun show find, second one is a mint shape FB Lt marked set that was a flea market find. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Rooster Posted May 26, 2021 Share #14 Posted May 26, 2021 23 hours ago, Blueprint said: Looks like it was hanging in a garage and was accidentally sprayed at one point. Very nice! Looks also like Marine stamps? Do you associate those red stencils with the Marine Corps ? The Hawley has a sailors name in it. Was wondering why you link the Corps to the red stencils? Is that common to the Marine Corps at the time? Its possible as it has a sailors name in it and could have been used also by the Marines at some point? Any info you have would be much appreciated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nickman983 Posted May 26, 2021 Share #15 Posted May 26, 2021 12 hours ago, iron bender said: Here's a couple of my favs. The 1st Lt. I bought from a seller off of ebay out of New York in the late 90's, and I'm pretty sure I got the other from AbramsAntiques off ebay 5 years back. Wow, I really love that 1st Lt. helmet. Thanks for sharing! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nickman983 Posted May 26, 2021 Share #16 Posted May 26, 2021 I'll share my two. Unfortunately both have seen better days but they still have managed to stay mostly intact. First up is my 1st pattern General Fibre liner. This one belonged to a Seabee, both the liner and helmet are stenciled on the crown with his initials. The helmet is also stenciled with his first/middle initials and last name under the brim. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shadawg Posted May 26, 2021 Share #17 Posted May 26, 2021 I fancy me a good Hawley or General Fibre. I must admit however, the first three have since left my hands Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nickman983 Posted May 26, 2021 Share #18 Posted May 26, 2021 The other Hawley I own is one off the USS San Francisco. This one has seen better days but it has somehow managed to hang in there with even the fixed chinstrap intact. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shadawg Posted May 26, 2021 Share #19 Posted May 26, 2021 Just now, Nickman983 said: The other Hawley I own is one off the USS San Francisco. This one has seen better days but it has somehow managed to hang in there with even the fixed chinstrap intact. i liked those san fran lids, missed out on a few of em, hah Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nickman983 Posted May 26, 2021 Share #20 Posted May 26, 2021 5 minutes ago, shadawg said: i liked those san fran lids, missed out on a few of em, hah I'm really glad I ended up buying one when they were available. Easily one of my favorite helmets. I just wish I had remembered to take screenshots of the listing before eBay deleted it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1canpara Posted May 26, 2021 Share #21 Posted May 26, 2021 This is a recent acquisition for me, named to a USAAF bomber crew gunner Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paddyd00 Posted May 26, 2021 Share #22 Posted May 26, 2021 2 hours ago, shadawg said: I fancy me a good Hawley or General Fibre. I must admit however, the first three have since left my hands They can still be a part of the Shadawg Collection Eternal Z Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shadawg Posted May 26, 2021 Share #23 Posted May 26, 2021 1 hour ago, 1canpara said: This is a recent acquisition for me, named to a USAAF bomber crew gunner man, i love this one everytime i see it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dijkhuizen Posted May 26, 2021 Share #24 Posted May 26, 2021 On 5/25/2021 at 5:08 PM, Blueprint said: I'll start right of the bat with this early M1 helmet with a first pattern Hawley liner. It's a FS FB McCord #170 and comes with the 2nd type of brass chinstrap buckle and also with the early shortened chinstraps. The Hawley is a nicely used 1st pattern model with rayon suspension, a nice intact leather chinstrap and also with a neatly Major's insignia painted on the front. The liner belonged at one point to two owners. One was "Kincaid" and the other to a "JDC". One of them must've been the Major who had painted the insignia on the liner and on the front of the shell (there just remnants of yellow chark visible there). Nice to see a helmet back that was once in my collection. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blueprint Posted May 26, 2021 Author Share #25 Posted May 26, 2021 5 hours ago, The Rooster said: Do you associate those red stencils with the Marine Corps ? The Hawley has a sailors name in it. Was wondering why you link the Corps to the red stencils? Is that common to the Marine Corps at the time? Its possible as it has a sailors name in it and could have been used also by the Marines at some point? Any info you have would be much appreciated. Hm I only thought it possible because of the fond of the stamping. Similar to my USMC M1 but yes, I oversaw the red color of it so I‘m not certain if red was also used by the Marines. Only the style of the stamps are familiar but the were also used by the navy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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