Connor Bills Posted May 23, 2021 #1 Posted May 23, 2021 Opportunity to purchase this and I’m just curious what my fellow carbine enthusiasts think about it.
tarheeltim Posted May 23, 2021 #2 Posted May 23, 2021 From what I see, I like it. Obviously, it's not possible to see how all pertinent parts are maker marked from the photos. Trimble stock is definitely correct. Early features like flip sight, barrel band, and safety are nice. Can't see how barrel is marked or if it has import stamp. Even if it's not all matching NPM, would be nice to have if the price is favorable.
Connor Bills Posted May 24, 2021 Author #3 Posted May 24, 2021 2 hours ago, tarheeltim said: From what I see, I like it. Obviously, it's not possible to see how all pertinent parts are maker marked from the photos. Trimble stock is definitely correct. Early features like flip sight, barrel band, and safety are nice. Can't see how barrel is marked or if it has import stamp. Even if it's not all matching NPM, would be nice to have if the price is favorable. All internal parts are marked for npm. I stripped it down and made sure of that. The stock cartouches are what I’m skeptical of. There are just too many fakes around.
collector Posted May 24, 2021 #5 Posted May 24, 2021 14 hours ago, Connor Bills said: All internal parts are marked for npm. I stripped it down and made sure of that. The stock cartouches are what I’m skeptical of. There are just too many fakes around. I agree about the cartouches, but still a nice piece. Sling looks good from here. Interested to see what the experts think.
mdk0911 Posted May 24, 2021 #6 Posted May 24, 2021 very nice carbine - If unsure about the stock cartouches - I would post it on the carbines collector club website and let then take a look see. http://www.uscarbinecal30.com/forum/
sundance Posted May 24, 2021 #7 Posted May 24, 2021 Very nice with a bunch of early features. Those were made in Rochester, NY not far from where I am. The National Postal Meter's buildings are still there but I believe NPM is long gone. I understand Trimble was a baby furniture maker before the war.
silverplate Posted May 25, 2021 #9 Posted May 25, 2021 Looks good. Matches the features and markings on my NPM carbine. The Marlin barrel is unique. I couldn't tell from your photos but is there a letter stamped on the heel of the receiver?
Connor Bills Posted May 25, 2021 Author #10 Posted May 25, 2021 1 hour ago, silverplate said: Looks good. Matches the features and markings on my NPM carbine. The Marlin barrel is unique. I couldn't tell from your photos but is there a letter stamped on the heel of the receiver? I do not believe so.
lambo35 Posted May 27, 2021 #11 Posted May 27, 2021 Has a Rock Ola marked front band, Would have to check "War Baby" to see if that may be okay. Chuck.
lambo35 Posted May 27, 2021 #12 Posted May 27, 2021 Just checked "War Baby", there was no integration of front bands to NPM from "Rock Ola", maybe the "Carbine Club" newsletter has some information regarding this anomaly. Chuck.
Connor Bills Posted May 27, 2021 Author #13 Posted May 27, 2021 6 hours ago, lambo35 said: Just checked "War Baby", there was no integration of front bands to NPM from "Rock Ola", maybe the "Carbine Club" newsletter has some information regarding this anomaly. Chuck. Carbine club members agree that the band may be original to rifle.
lambo35 Posted May 27, 2021 #14 Posted May 27, 2021 Carbine collectors and those who have the books agree that "you can never say never" when it comes to what may have come on a particular carbine during their production period. There have been thousands of anomalies noticed on otherwise correct as expected examples observed over the last 75 years. The "Rock Ola" front band may be original to that particular carbine. It surely is a very fine example of a NPM rifle, it really looks too good. Chuck.
Connor Bills Posted May 27, 2021 Author #15 Posted May 27, 2021 3 hours ago, lambo35 said: Carbine collectors and those who have the books agree that "you can never say never" when it comes to what may have come on a particular carbine during their production period. There have been thousands of anomalies noticed on otherwise correct as expected examples observed over the last 75 years. The "Rock Ola" front band may be original to that particular carbine. It surely is a very fine example of a NPM rifle, it really looks too good. Chuck. Agreed. That’s one of the first things to learn when dealing with these
everforward Posted May 27, 2021 #16 Posted May 27, 2021 To my eye it is very nice, and looking at the pics I’d say the most wear found anywhere on it is on the buttplate.....it is a pretty crispy example overall, wood and metal bits all have lots of condition. While the cartouches are sharp, so is the rest of it.
USARV72 Posted May 28, 2021 #17 Posted May 28, 2021 A give away is the cosmoline on flip sight, very nice piece. Have an OOP carbine reference book that has dates of mfg. by month. Using the serial # allotments one can get good idea which week a Carbine was mfg. Years ago when I really collected had all but an IBM. I would buy it unless just crazy price. Know a young collector that bought a presentation M-1 Carbine for under $1500!!
lambo35 Posted May 30, 2021 #18 Posted May 30, 2021 This is not meant to be a criticism of this particular carbine, but, I have been puzzled by the by the upside down "S" on the left side of the rear sight base of several observed carbines. I have wondered if they are post war made, arsenal sights or outright reproductions. Has any one noticed this characteristic [the upside down "S"] on verified, unmolested M1 carbines? Chuck
Connor Bills Posted May 30, 2021 Author #19 Posted May 30, 2021 15 minutes ago, lambo35 said: This is not meant to be a criticism of this particular carbine, but, I have been puzzled by the by the upside down "S" on the left side of the rear sight base of several observed carbines. I have wondered if they are post war made, arsenal sights or outright reproductions. Has any one noticed this characteristic [the upside down "S"] on verified, unmolested M1 carbines? Chuck I like to see those little imperfections on my Carbines.
gap Posted June 1, 2021 #20 Posted June 1, 2021 The flip sight looks a little bit suspicious to me. If you post over in the CMP site, they will tell you for sure.
Connor Bills Posted June 1, 2021 Author #21 Posted June 1, 2021 43 minutes ago, gap said: The flip sight looks a little bit suspicious to me. If you post over in the CMP site, they will tell you for sure. Flip sight is golden
hyrax222 Posted July 24, 2021 #22 Posted July 24, 2021 Just beautifull! A true gem. No appologies needed. Don't fall down the rabbit hole of carbine collecting!The endless variations will drive you mad and hoover your wallet!
Connor Bills Posted July 25, 2021 Author #23 Posted July 25, 2021 4 hours ago, hyrax222 said: Just beautifull! A true gem. No appologies needed. Don't fall down the rabbit hole of carbine collecting!The endless variations will drive you mad and hoover your wallet! Haha much too late for me. I was bitten long ago.
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