Need help (Koepnick and Aresta insignia)

[Ilin1979]

Looks European has a horizontal pinback 

[rlyoun3910]

266th Inf Bn (Armored) 13th Armor Div 

[patches]

Wow another one.

 

Here's a talk on these, you note that the one you posted Ilin1979, is a different one than the ones you'll see in the topic, hasn't been posted before,this being the Red Field with the Crown, which beings more questions, just how many different color configurations were there of this D, there should only be four, now we see five.

 

 

 

[tredhed2]

These are part of a series of "DIs" made for collectors (Koepnick).  Not made while unit(s) is/were active.  

[patches]

3 hours ago, tredhed2 said:

These are part of a series of "DIs" made for collectors (Koepnick).  Not made while unit(s) is/were active.  

Is it that simple tred? These are Koepnick pieces after all?

[tredhed2]

I have an update to an earlier post.

 

Both Koepnick and Aresta recd their "inspiration" from various sources - at best, from official drawings (from OQMG), signs, or their imaginations. In this case. the design was based on some type of foreign metal insignia, not having anything to do w/ the US Army or any branch of US armed forces. It was made in the late 70s or early 80s, well after the unit was inactivated, with a motto ATTACK AND MOVE; and was a squared vs. pointed shield.        

 

US DIs, for a substantial part, are based on heraldry. Symbols on DIs are specifically related to a unit. If you are going to collect DIs, w/o a basic knowledge of heraldry, you are not doing yourself any good. Pick up any of Sawicki's books or join ASMIC.  

      

[Salvage Sailor]

For Info RE:  ARESTA HAWAII Insignia & ASMIC

 

News Article from the archives of the Honolulu-Star Bulletin (1997)

 

PIN ONE ON

 

Excerpt:  Aresta has gone into the DI-making business himself, and his "Aresta of Hawaii" reproduction insignia are known worldwide. He (Aresta) and Sparks have formed the Hawaii Military Insignia Collectors and Study Group to document the history of these tiny artifacts.

 

The pair are gruff and no-nonsense about their passion. Says one member of their study group, "Charlie and Ken are two really cranky old guys, but they sure know their stuff."

Aresta occasionally disagrees with members of ASMIC, the American Society of Military Insignia Collectors, on the disposition of particular insignia. ASMIC wants proof before study that insignia actually were worn, and Aresta is content with designs that were approved, although it may be hard to tell if the DIs actually were manufactured or not.

The problem is that, although DIs were approved Army wear, their manufacture and distribution were not handled by the Army, and the DIs are by nature a regional phenomenon

[tredhed2]

Words cannot describe my take on the clipping. Nice interesting slant, too.