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T Ambrosini
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T Ambrosini

This was dug up in a yard near Sacramento.  No logical reason to find it there, so I suppose it was something that someone brought home long ago and it got lost in the soil.  These are the only photos I have of it.  I'm told it is fairly hefty.

 

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Tom

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McDermut99

I feel sorry for whoever first dug that up and experienced the sudden realization. 

 

Unfired judging by the band, and had red(?) paint on it. Eyeballing it possibly a 3 inch naval shell? Clean and check the driving band for any markings.

This one looks a lot like yours:

http://metaldetectingforum.com/showthread.php?t=271020

 

Also, who loses a shell that size in a yard?

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T Ambrosini

I think you have hit it right on....  So to speak.  It does seem likely to be a 3 inch projectile (inert, I hope).  I agree, there appears to be traces of red paint on it as well.  Might have looked like one of these, once upon a time....

 

Thanks for the help (and the useful hammer test suggestion).......  Tom

 

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Blacksmith
19 minutes ago, T Ambrosini said:

I think you have hit it right on....  So to speak.  It does seem likely to be a 3 inch projectile (inert, I hope).  I agree, there appears to be traces of red paint on it as well.  Might have looked like one of these, once upon a time....

 

Thanks for the help (and the useful hammer test suggestion).......  Tom

 

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To be clear, the "hammer test" method, as you call it, is only meant for cartoon rabbits.

 

In all seriousness, I would treat any found ordnance as live, until proven otherwise.

 

Civil war cannonballs, and other ground-dug bits, are still capable of killing people.

 

 

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T Ambrosini
21 minutes ago, Blacksmith said:

To be clear, the "hammer test" method, as you call it, is only meant for cartoon rabbits.

 

In all seriousness, I would treat any found ordnance as live, until proven otherwise.

Tongue-in-cheek cartoon humor wasn't lost on me, thanks.  I believe it is going to be disposed of properly.  Tom

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12thengr

 Kinda looks like the solid shot (3") that sits on my desk. Not too dangerous unless you drop it on your foot.

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T Ambrosini

Thanks, yes it is close in appearance, aside from the tapered base.  Is yours a naval 3 inch projectile?  Looks like it had been fired by the appearance of the rotating band.

 

Tom

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Missing is the base diameter measurement for positive ID. Most likely a very early Navy 3” (76mm) AP or APC ( Armour Piercing Capped), but maybe 75mm. 75mm had the single brass driving, the WW2 Navy 3” (76mm) had a 3 groove driving band. It is a solid bolt, NOT EXPLOSIVE. The nose appears to be “ capped”, a hollow windshield presssed onto the solid bolt? Is it solid?  If any remnants of a red body color indicates it is a Navy 3” APC Blind Loaded projectile ( red in color in the Navy indicates inert loaded) not explosive in any way. Wire brush the rust then examine the driving band ( or area just above the copper driving band) for any markings, an anchor symbol signifies Navy. It is NOT explosive as the base is open and the base fuze is missing.

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T Ambrosini

That is very helpful, thanks.  It's not in my possession but I've sent a link of this discussion to the guy who has it.  He can take it from there and I'll post whatever he comes up with

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frijoles108

Looks like a US navy 4 inch 50 cal projectile, more photographs of the base would be nice. Essentially it is a upscaled 3 inch 50 cal, the casing is a giant upsized 3 inch 50 casing also.

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