hyrax222 Posted December 6, 2022 Share #126 Posted December 6, 2022 X-ray. hyrax222 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shep1943 Posted December 6, 2022 Share #127 Posted December 6, 2022 My vote is X-ray Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nbound Posted December 7, 2022 Share #128 Posted December 7, 2022 Here are my feelings towards the dated UFH M1. My M1s are as such in length, PAL 14.5" in length, AFH 14 3/8", UFH 14.25", UC 14 3/8", OL 14 3/8" Dated UFH M1 14". Length appears to be all over the board. I'm not overly concerned of the length if it is authentic. 14" does concern me a little. It appears to be a different size groove about 1 5/8" above the cross guard. The groove does not quite look right. The first part 1 5/8" feels deeper than the rest of the blood groove. The file marks at suspected weld area concerns me. The spine does not quite seem to line up straight along its entire length. I'm currently looking into a few places that can do x-rays on it to give the definitive answer. I'm leaning to it being a welded forgery with real parts. I will keep you all posted as I learn more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nbound Posted December 7, 2022 Share #129 Posted December 7, 2022 This evening I got a reply from Great Lakes Testing in Green Bay, Wi. Here was the VP of operations reply to me. "Bob, The easiest way would be to use a weak acid rub on the suspected weld area and if it has been welded you can see a distinct color difference between the weld and the base metal. Muriatic acid usually works good. Sometimes even ketchup left on for a long time will do it." I used vinegar for the test. The results are in......:( It's a forgery....Darn it Well it was a long shot. Now for the refund. Had they used two pieces with the same size groove and did a better job of lining things up. they may have gotten away with it. Happy Holidays to all Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Misfit 45 Posted December 7, 2022 Author Share #130 Posted December 7, 2022 Thanks for the feed back. Sure wish it was real. Marv Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Collector2 Posted December 7, 2022 Share #131 Posted December 7, 2022 Nbound, Not the outcome that we were hoping for but very hard to dispute that evidence. What a simple cheap way to test for a weld; thanks for telling how to carry the test out, guess it won’t be the last time it is used now. The search must go on. Cheers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim McCauley Posted December 7, 2022 Share #132 Posted December 7, 2022 Wow! Crazy stuff in our hobby. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hyrax222 Posted December 7, 2022 Share #133 Posted December 7, 2022 Nbound- So did you use vinegar for your test? Good information to have! I too wish it was real. Thanks for taking the risk, we all wanted to know! hyrax222 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nbound Posted December 7, 2022 Share #134 Posted December 7, 2022 2 hours ago, hyrax222 said: Nbound- So did you use vinegar for your test? Good information to have! I too wish it was real. Thanks for taking the risk, we all wanted to know! hyrax222 Yes I used vinegar, rubbed it for only a few minutes and the color difference started showing up. Happy Holidays to all. Thanks for all your inputs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SKIPH Posted December 7, 2022 Share #135 Posted December 7, 2022 Great information gang! Glad it was shared. SKIP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shep1943 Posted December 8, 2022 Share #136 Posted December 8, 2022 Sorry it didn’t work out. I was rooting for you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
opseccc Posted December 9, 2022 Share #137 Posted December 9, 2022 Great job investigating it to identifying it as being a modified blade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Collector2 Posted January 6, 2023 Share #138 Posted January 6, 2023 Noticed this morning that this M1 UFH 1943 marked bayonet has just been relisted by the previous owner, the starting price has been greatly reduced ($69.99) and seller has stated in his description, "weld mark 1cm above ricasso where blades been refitted to handle". No International shipping. Already 5 bids, will keep an eye on it. Nbound, hope returning of the bayonet worked out ok for you. Cheers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nbound Posted January 6, 2023 Share #139 Posted January 6, 2023 Yes, everything worked out fine. Full refund was received today. Worth the shipping to learn how to detect welds. I would have been happier had it turned out to be the real deal. Had to try , the pictures were good but they did snot how the depth differences of the two welded pieces. Glad I talked to a metallurgist and learned what to look for. .........the search continues Thanks to all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hyrax222 Posted January 6, 2023 Share #140 Posted January 6, 2023 Nbound- Sorry it was not "real"! We all learned another way to test for welds... hyrax222 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Collector2 Posted January 15, 2023 Share #141 Posted January 15, 2023 The 1943 UFH M1 just sold again, 14 bidders this time. Hope they followed this post and know what they were bidding. Cheers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weasel_master Posted January 22, 2023 Share #142 Posted January 22, 2023 What's an uncut 1942 worth? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weasel_master Posted January 22, 2023 Share #143 Posted January 22, 2023 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Misfit 45 Posted January 22, 2023 Author Share #144 Posted January 22, 2023 I would say the AFH M1905 dated 1942, in nice condition like yours would be worth $350 to $400, It depends on everything. In the end, it's only worth what someone will pay. Marv Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nbound Posted March 2, 2023 Share #145 Posted March 2, 2023 Here is another beauty🙂 It's better done than the 1943 UFH M1 from Australia. on EBAY Vintage WWII US Army Marine Corps UFH 1942 M1 Garand Bayonet 10" & Scabbard Obviously the seller does not know very much about bayonets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hyrax222 Posted March 3, 2023 Share #146 Posted March 3, 2023 This one? Ebay # 304817232819 Glendale, CA hyrax222 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nbound Posted March 3, 2023 Share #147 Posted March 3, 2023 That would be it. Hard to find one in this condition, It is well done....someone will fall for it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hyrax222 Posted March 4, 2023 Share #148 Posted March 4, 2023 Sellor posted: hyrax222 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAH Posted April 16, 2023 Share #149 Posted April 16, 2023 I have this one AFH 10" with 1943 stamp and canonball Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
American Sasquatch Posted July 11, 2023 Share #150 Posted July 11, 2023 Just recently picked up a beautiful 16" PAL 1943. I prefer the 1943 over a 1942. For some reason I feel that the 1943 is more desirable, I see so many 1942's Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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