mdk0911 Posted February 10, 2021 Share #1 Posted February 10, 2021 All, stay away from this listing as I sold a US belt with a US plate and the original belt that was tooled with Stars. Now EBAY User name General Lee has matched the tooled belt to a CS belt buckle and states that the belt is Original to the buckle - NOT!!!!! - Buyer beware https://www.ebay.com/itm/EXCEPTIONALLY-RARE-CIVIL-WAR-ERA-CONFEDERATE-CS-OVAL-BELT-BUCKLE-ORIGINAL-BELT/233885406876?hash=item3674a8169c%3Ag%3ALBwAAOSwjqNgHWvZ&LH_Auction=1 I will look at home to see if I saved any pictures of the original item I sold him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mdk0911 Posted February 10, 2021 Author Share #2 Posted February 10, 2021 here is the original listing https://www.ebay.com/itm/324384953779 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dunmore1774 Posted February 10, 2021 Share #3 Posted February 10, 2021 CS buckle looks pretty bad too, wide rim and overfilled lead. Is this the same seller with a never-ending supply of Pearl Harbor flags? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
268th C.A. Posted February 10, 2021 Share #4 Posted February 10, 2021 I'm not crazy about it either...somebody is ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blacksmith Posted February 10, 2021 Share #5 Posted February 10, 2021 I was initially thinking it could be a different belt - but same design, as the current pics make the leather look lighter. Then I looked closer, and there are a couple of wear characteristics that changed my mind. Sure looks like the same one. I’m a dummy on CW buckles, so can’t comment there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dunmore1774 Posted February 10, 2021 Share #6 Posted February 10, 2021 save your money and put it into Gamestock stock 🙂 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dhcoleterracina Posted February 11, 2021 Share #7 Posted February 11, 2021 His ebay id is generallee292 for those searching in the future. I agree with the comments but there seems to be no short supply of suckers out there. Sad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doyler Posted February 11, 2021 Share #8 Posted February 11, 2021 Maybe be best to add a few photo's here on the topic as it wont be of much value in the future when the ebay sale is ended or deleted. There are so many old topics here with no pictures or ended links and the topics are fractured. I have always been told by the collectors in the civil war field that buckles with the sharp or pointed puppy paws on the back are a red flag. I bought a nice repo US belt buckle years ago just to have as an example. Figure $20 is a cheap education. Mine is a typical US belt buckle with lead back and the puppy paws are sharp and the brass hook is different than an original I have. Here is the back of the suspect CSA buckle. the thick lead as mentioned is also a red flag. CSA stuff is like SS stuff...highly faked and very expensive.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mdk0911 Posted February 20, 2021 Author Share #9 Posted February 20, 2021 I'm totally not liking this guy here is what he did to the buckle that came with this belt from the original post - what a skumbag here is the buckle here is the ebay buckle listing and he ruined a beautiful buckle!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! https://www.ebay.com/itm/RARE-CIVIL-WAR-ERA-U-S-BUCKLE-WITH-PISTOL-BULLET-EMBEDDED-DEAD-CENTER-GETTYSBURG/383956810598?hash=item59659bfb66%3Ag%3AFvoAAOSwt5ZgKpWA&LH_Auction=1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dhcoleterracina Posted February 20, 2021 Share #10 Posted February 20, 2021 It certainly is the same buckle, another lost historical artifact. Good eye. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VMI88 Posted February 21, 2021 Share #11 Posted February 21, 2021 On 2/11/2021 at 2:18 AM, doyler said: I have always been told by the collectors in the civil war field that buckles with the sharp or pointed puppy paws on the back are a red flag. I bought a nice repo US belt buckle years ago just to have as an example. Figure $20 is a cheap education. Mine is a typical US belt buckle with lead back and the puppy paws are sharp and the brass hook is different than an original I have. Here is the back of the suspect CSA buckle. the thick lead as mentioned is also a red flag. CSA stuff is like SS stuff...highly faked and very expensive.. It's worse than that - the buckle is a total fantasy piece that was first produced in the 20th Century as a knock-off of the standard US buckle. There were a few types of CS oval buckles produced during the War but they were very crude in comparison to the US buckle and none used the arrow type hooks. This isn't even close to any original Confederate buckle and nobody who has ever looked at a basic reference book should have been fooled. Someone is about to get a very expensive education (assuming it wasn't shill bidding). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4th Miss Cav Posted February 21, 2021 Share #12 Posted February 21, 2021 Makes me sick to see someone destroy a beautiful buckle like that. All for a few bucks. He mentions a bad day for the wearer. If it was true it would have been a very good day for the wearer considering the alternative of a bullet going through your belly. Just sad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gravecreek Posted February 26, 2021 Share #13 Posted February 26, 2021 $710.00 !! Someone got hosed ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3ARTYFO Posted May 25, 2021 Share #14 Posted May 25, 2021 The jackass has a never ending supply of USS crossed arrows cap insignia also ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mdk0911 Posted May 25, 2021 Author Share #15 Posted May 25, 2021 I really don't like this guy!!!!!!!!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boy Howdy Posted June 24, 2021 Share #16 Posted June 24, 2021 He has another "Gettysburg" dug buckle listed. Does it look authentic to you all? I am not a CW buckle person at all so my opinion accounts for bupkis. https://www.ebay.com/itm/384229593613?_trkparms=aid%3D111001%26algo%3DREC.SEED%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D20160811114145%26meid%3D48876e934dda419d98cfb5331f9e4740%26pid%3D100667%26rk%3D2%26rkt%3D8%26sd%3D144086706425%26itm%3D384229593613%26pmt%3D0%26noa%3D1%26pg%3D2334524&_trksid=p2334524.c100667.m2042 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marktk36thIL Posted June 24, 2021 Share #17 Posted June 24, 2021 Even if it's real, it's not even worth doing business with him. The moment anyone finds out that is where the buckle came from, it will always be questioned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boy Howdy Posted June 25, 2021 Share #18 Posted June 25, 2021 A reputation, once tarnished, cannot be buffed out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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