kloss Posted February 7, 2021 Share #1 Posted February 7, 2021 Hello I get today the Helmet, cans you give my you Opinions?. I can not find Numbers in the Shell, bud I think WW2 Corc Painting , late war manganese steel rear seam. Chinstrap WW2. MSA Liner ca. late 1942 , Sweatband and Neckband OD 07 postwar ?. Leather Strap WW2 or Postwar ?. best regards Michael Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kloss Posted February 7, 2021 Author Share #2 Posted February 7, 2021 And Inside. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CavalryCombatant Posted February 7, 2021 Share #3 Posted February 7, 2021 Based on the anchor stamp, my best guess would be post Korea. Chinstraps look odd to me, but may be lightly used. As for the heat stamp, check closer to the bales, late war heatstamps can be almost anywhere. Try different angles with a light, that may also help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P-59A Posted February 7, 2021 Share #4 Posted February 7, 2021 The lot number is normally found just inside the bill of the inside. Some times the stamp is faint so look at it from different angles. Your helmet is a rear seam manganese rim. Those came on line around OCT 44. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P-59A Posted February 7, 2021 Share #5 Posted February 7, 2021 Your liner has the unpainted A washers and is more mid war. It would not have come with the OD 7 nape or sweat band band. Those were added at a later time and the sweat band is post war, I can see what looks like a DSA number on it and the stamp on the nape is also post war. The leather chin strap with the anchor stamp is post war. I have questions about the chin strap too. Normally they are OD 7 and not tan, but lets find out what the lot number is first. The liner and helmet did not come together. The liner shows use that the helmet does not show. You can replace the nape, leather chin strap and sweat band and come up with a period correct liner or leave it as is, your call. Do not ware it, the webbing is old and will rip in time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CavalryCombatant Posted February 7, 2021 Share #6 Posted February 7, 2021 Here are some more spots to look, oh the joy of collecting! Best of luck, CC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kloss Posted February 7, 2021 Author Share #7 Posted February 7, 2021 I tried now long time to find the Number with Flashlight, but without success and Inside are only one Paint layer 🤔 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justin Posted February 7, 2021 Share #8 Posted February 7, 2021 12 minutes ago, kloss said: I tried now long time to find the Number with Flashlight, but without success and Inside are only one Paint layer 🤔 Try looking near the bales. I wouldn't go crazy though, the mag rim and rear seam help you date it. The straps IMO are original, all the McCord rear seam helmets I own / have owned had OD#3 straps. As stated the liner strap, nape and sweatband are all VN era. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P-59A Posted February 7, 2021 Share #9 Posted February 7, 2021 Take a damp rag and wipe an area then hit the light at an angle, that will help to get the stamp to pop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P-59A Posted February 7, 2021 Share #10 Posted February 7, 2021 Dustin, Wouldn't the chin straps on it make it more transitional and that would put that more towards early Oct correct? or maybe a little sooner? I have had front seem manganese and rear seem stainless, but never with tan straps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paddyd00 Posted February 7, 2021 Share #11 Posted February 7, 2021 Wasnt it kind of a hodge podge there for awhile? As in they used what stocks they had and didn’t do a hard crossover Persay? I only ask because using Grants Schlueter research (on USMF) list for an example I've noticed during the transitional periods it is kind of a free for all type thing with fixed loops to swivels back to fixed... od7 to od 3 and back again kind of thing. Stainless to Manganese and back again. I assume McCord production followed this up in the air pattern as well. Zach Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kloss Posted February 7, 2021 Author Share #12 Posted February 7, 2021 I dont found the number, no chance 🤔. Bud in Swearband are the Name and Personal Number!. Name looks like "Grushen". It would be possible find out something about him. Sweatband are Korea or later ?. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Justin Posted February 7, 2021 Share #14 Posted February 7, 2021 3 hours ago, Paddyd00 said: Wasnt it kind of a hodge podge there for awhile? As in they used what stocks they had and didn’t do a hard crossover Persay? I only ask because using Grants Schlueter research (on USMF) list for an example I've noticed during the transitional periods it is kind of a free for all type thing with fixed loops to swivels back to fixed... od7 to od 3 and back again kind of thing. Stainless to Manganese and back again. I assume McCord production followed this up in the air pattern as well. Zach I've noticed that front seam schlueter helmets(fixed bail and swivel) have both OD#3 and OD#7. I have both types in my collection. I've never seen a rear seam schlueter with OD #3.. I own plenty of McCords with OD #3 but the straps are Frankenstein style and I assume they are a post war refurbish before T1 hardware. These are all front seam and appare to have repaints (sewn straps) That's just my experience handling helmets over the last almost 20 years now. I'm probably wrong though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paddyd00 Posted February 7, 2021 Share #15 Posted February 7, 2021 32 minutes ago, Justin said: I've noticed that front seam schlueter helmets(fixed bail and swivel) have both OD#3 and OD#7. I have both types in my collection. I've never seen a rear seam schlueter with OD #3.. I own plenty of McCords with OD #3 but the straps are Frankenstein style and I assume they are a post war refurbish before T1 hardware. These are all front seam and appare to have repaints (sewn straps) That's just my experience handling helmets over the last almost 20 years now. I'm probably wrong though. No. No doubt. And I agree with the rear seam breakdown and looking at this list I was referencing seems like Grant in his findings feels the same. Think I was referring to swivel / front transition areas have a hodge podge and mix. Perhaps wasnt explaining myself clearly. I only own 1 rear seam Navy Schlueter and it’s indeed OD7 ( All the rest are fronts or fixeds what have you ) Z Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cap Camouflage Pattern I Posted February 11, 2021 Share #16 Posted February 11, 2021 sweatband is late 50s or newer, Korean war are HBT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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