Jump to content

WWI Town & County service medals


Sumserbrown
 Share

Recommended Posts

bertmedals
1 hour ago, JimmyBerry2013 said:

Dennis,

I know you live in Ohio so wondered if you know type for Cambridge Ohio or straitsville

thanks

jim

Jim,

Sorry, I do not know.  I have never found or even seen either of them unfortunately.

Dennis

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Sumserbrown
On 7/26/2021 at 11:48 PM, JimmyBerry2013 said:

I finally got my list in the mail to you hope it arrives shortly.  

Hi Jim,

many thanks for sending the file, it arrived safely with me today. There is a huge amount of information in there so it is going to take some time to look through this and then come back to you with some questions but initial thoughts are:

1/ what numbering system are you using for the medal types? It is not Small so is it maybe Planck?

2/ Do you have a key with all of the abbreviations and acronyms spelt out as I am unfamiliar with many of them (both medal manufacturers and medal issuing bodies)

3/ Is there a reason for not listing the ribbons and brooch fittings for the medals?

 

Could I also please send you some money to at least cover the cost of photocopying and postage?

 

many thanks and best wishes

Rob

 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Sumserbrown
On 7/26/2021 at 11:48 PM, JimmyBerry2013 said:

I finally got my list in the mail to you hope it arrives shortly.  

 

Hi Jim,

looking at your (very extensive) list I couldn't find this medal in there but maybe it is under another section. It was sold to me as coming from Crane County, Texas and indeed I can't find another Crane Co in the US so I assume this is correct. Do you have any information about it and is it mentioned in any of the other books (I only have Small)?

thanks

Rob

 

484 obverse.JPG

484 reverse.JPG

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Sumserbrown
1 hour ago, Wharfmaster said:

Could this be the Crane Company ?

 

 

 

W

 

That's a good suggestion, probably more likely than (the very rural and sparsely populated) Crane County Texas. Do you know where the Crane Company is/was located?

Rob

 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Wharfmaster
36 minutes ago, Sumserbrown said:

 

That's a good suggestion, probably more likely than (the very rural and sparsely populated) Crane County Texas. Do you know where the Crane Company is/was located?

Rob

 

The Crane Co. was/is located in Chicago.

 

 

W

Link to comment
Share on other sites

The lack of the word, “The” in front of “Crane Co.” makes think it’s presented by “Crane County” rather than “The Crane Company”

Link to comment
Share on other sites

bertmedals

Pretty sure it is Crane Company.  Even today the company does not use the article "the" in its name.  Crane Co. built mortars for the war effort, among other things (America's Munitions, multiple entries).  USN, War (as in War Department) and E.F.C. (Emergency Fleet Corporation) were their main wartime customers.  The 6-month time periods of the service bars are typical of wartime manufacturers' service awards.  I've seen dozens of these badges over the year which is probably unsupportable as an award for Crane County, TX that had a historic population of 37 in the 1920 census.  

Dennis

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Sumserbrown
1 hour ago, bertmedals said:

Pretty sure it is Crane Company.  Even today the company does not use the article "the" in its name.  Crane Co. built mortars for the war effort, among other things (America's Munitions, multiple entries).  USN, War (as in War Department) and E.F.C. (Emergency Fleet Corporation) were their main wartime customers.  The 6-month time periods of the service bars are typical of wartime manufacturers' service awards.  I've seen dozens of these badges over the year which is probably unsupportable as an award for Crane County, TX that had a historic population of 37 in the 1920 census.  

Dennis

 

Thanks Dennis, based on the replies from you and WharfMaster I am now strongly believing like you that this medal was issued by Crane Company and not Crane County. 

best

Rob

 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

FlyNavy02

From the 1920 Census:

 

Name: John Ashcroft

Age: 42

Birth Year: abt 1878

Birthplace: England

Home in 1920: Chicago Ward 30, Cook (Chicago), Illinois

Street: Princeton Ave

House Number: 5319

Residence Date:1920

Race: White

Gender: Male

Immigration Year: 1910

Relation to Head of House: Head

Marital Status: Married

Spouse's Name: Emma Ashcroft

Father's Birthplace: England

Mother's Birthplace: England

Native Tongue: English

Able to Speak English: Yes

Occupation: Metal Polisher

Employment Field: Wage or Salary

Home Owned or Rented: Rented

Naturalization Status: Papers Submitted

Attended School: No

Able to read: Yes

Able to Write: Yes

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Sumserbrown
10 hours ago, FlyNavy02 said:

From the 1920 Census:

 

Name: John Ashcroft

Age: 42

Birth Year: abt 1878

Birthplace: England

Home in 1920: Chicago Ward 30, Cook (Chicago), Illinois

Street: Princeton Ave

House Number: 5319

Residence Date:1920

Race: White

Gender: Male

Immigration Year: 1910

Relation to Head of House: Head

Marital Status: Married

Spouse's Name: Emma Ashcroft

Father's Birthplace: England

Mother's Birthplace: England

Native Tongue: English

Able to Speak English: Yes

Occupation: Metal Polisher

Employment Field: Wage or Salary

Home Owned or Rented: Rented

Naturalization Status: Papers Submitted

Attended School: No

Able to read: Yes

Able to Write: Yes

 

Thanks very much for doing the research, very interesting.

Rob

 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

collectsmedals

This group in my collection was awarded to Shipfitter Reginald James Johnson and includes a World War I Victory Medal with a Grand Fleet bar and a medal from the Town of Webster which is in Central New York just East of Rochester. He served on the U.S.S. Florida and was present at the surrender of the German Fleet. Reginald is number 3 in the group photograph.

IMG_1242.JPG

IMG_1245.JPG

IMG_1246.JPG

Johnson Reginald J.jpg

Johnson Reginald town ser rec.jpg

Link to comment
Share on other sites

JimmyBerry2013
On 8/5/2021 at 11:07 AM, Sumserbrown said:

 

That's a good suggestion, probably more likely than (the very rural and sparsely populated) Crane County Texas. Do you know where the Crane Company is/was located?

Rob

 

 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

JimmyBerry2013

It is an Ill medal I have it listed as Chicago Crane Co x-36 but no issue number

Link to comment
Share on other sites

JimmyBerry2013
1 hour ago, collectsmedals said:

This group in my collection was awarded to Shipfitter Reginald James Johnson and includes a World War I Victory Medal with a Grand Fleet bar and a medal from the Town of Webster which is in Central New York just East of Rochester. He served on the U.S.S. Florida and was present at the surrender of the German Fleet. Reginald is number 3 in the group photograph.

IMG_1242.JPG

IMG_1245.JPG

IMG_1246.JPG

Johnson Reginald J.jpg

Johnson Reginald town ser rec.jpg

 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

JimmyBerry2013

Webster is a very small town population in 1920 was 1,247 so really rare medal especially with other documents.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Sumserbrown
6 hours ago, collectsmedals said:

This group in my collection was awarded to Shipfitter Reginald James Johnson and includes a World War I Victory Medal with a Grand Fleet bar and a medal from the Town of Webster which is in Central New York just East of Rochester. He served on the U.S.S. Florida and was present at the surrender of the German Fleet. Reginald is number 3 in the group photograph.

IMG_1242.JPG

IMG_1245.JPG

IMG_1246.JPG

Johnson Reginald J.jpg

Johnson Reginald town ser rec.jpg

 

That's a very nice group, especially with the photographs.

Rob

 

 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

collectsmedals
10 hours ago, JimmyBerry2013 said:

Webster is a very small town population in 1920 was 1,247 so really rare medal especially with other documents.

5 hours ago, Sumserbrown said:

That's a very nice group, especially with the photographs.

 

Thank you for the information and kind comments. The only items actually in my possession are the ones shown in the first three photographs; which are the two medals, the individual photograph, the  Christmas Card, and the discharge summary. The group photograph and the Town of Webster service summary I found online along with some other documents which I didn't post.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Sumserbrown
1 hour ago, collectsmedals said:

 

Thank you for the information and kind comments. The only items actually in my possession are the ones shown in the first three photographs; which are the two medals, the individual photograph, the  Christmas Card, and the discharge summary. The group photograph and the Town of Webster service summary I found online along with some other documents which I didn't post.

 

I have done some research on a group of medals and photo that I bought recently. I went onto Ancestry to look the man up and in doing so found a close relative, whom I then contacted directly. I was able to send them a picture of the medals and a copy of the photo of their relative in uniform and in return they gave me more information about the man in his later life and copies of pictures of him as an older man. I think both of us found this interesting and enriching, but I haven't always had such a positive response when contacting relatives on Ancestry.

Rob

 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Create an account or sign in to comment

You need to be a member in order to leave a comment

Create an account

Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!

Register a new account

Sign in

Already have an account? Sign in here.

Sign In Now
 Share

×
×
  • Create New...