ArchangelDM Posted January 26, 2021 Share #1 Posted January 26, 2021 Had these for years and would like to know if WW2 or not as only seen the rough out ones but I’m sure they did leather ones like these also ? thanks - Dean Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doyler Posted January 26, 2021 Share #2 Posted January 26, 2021 To me they look WW2 and had boot dubbing applied. There were boots that had a brown finnish but on them I have an unworn set. I also have a set of buckle boots that were dyed black worn by a Colonel when the change over allowed older boots to be dyed and worn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
themick Posted January 26, 2021 Share #3 Posted January 26, 2021 What ever they are, the lack of wear on the soles versus the very noticeable wear on the uppers doesn't seem right. Just another stupid opinion...... Steve Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
huntssurplus Posted January 27, 2021 Share #4 Posted January 27, 2021 I think they’re good, I’ll send a couple pictures of similar pairs I have. Looking at the soles, they do look like they have little wear. Could we get more overarching photos of them. Might just be we can’t really see the area that is most worn. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArchangelDM Posted January 27, 2021 Author Share #5 Posted January 27, 2021 I’ll get some photos of the soles up tonight ! They are worn the flash has made them a lot brighter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doyler Posted January 27, 2021 Share #6 Posted January 27, 2021 look worn to me..I saw the wear to stitching on sole. the heel wear etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doyler Posted January 27, 2021 Share #7 Posted January 27, 2021 one of the best pairs I have. Owned 4-5 pairs in this condition. These are from local transportation officer. Size 11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArchangelDM Posted January 27, 2021 Author Share #8 Posted January 27, 2021 2 hours ago, doyler said: look worn to me..I saw the wear to stitching on sole. the heel wear etc. Doyler can I ask, are mine rough out boots but with some sort of leather wax put on top. Or did they also do a version in soft leather. They also have the early white inlay in the top ? thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArchangelDM Posted January 27, 2021 Author Share #9 Posted January 27, 2021 9 hours ago, themick said: What ever they are, the lack of wear on the soles versus the very noticeable wear on the uppers doesn't seem right. Just another stupid opinion...... Steve Hey Steve the heel is almost flat from wear, they are worn but I’ll post more pics up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
themick Posted January 27, 2021 Share #10 Posted January 27, 2021 Sorry folks, the wear you all noticed wasn't apparent to me at first. I see it now. As I said, another stupid opinion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dmar836 Posted January 28, 2021 Share #11 Posted January 28, 2021 Aren't these just the standard M-43 buckle boots? Some had khaki canvas inside and some had OD. What's not to like? Legit to me. Also, soles were replaced all the time. Still are actually but it was once as common as wristwatch maintenance. Oh, wait. Dave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dhcoleterracina Posted January 28, 2021 Share #12 Posted January 28, 2021 I just know them as "double buckle" boots, an iconic WW2 US GI issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArchangelDM Posted January 28, 2021 Author Share #13 Posted January 28, 2021 Thanks everyone ! I was confused by the soft leather as seen them rough side out also Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P-59A Posted February 13, 2021 Share #14 Posted February 13, 2021 On 1/28/2021 at 12:04 PM, dmar836 said: Aren't these just the standard M-43 buckle boots? Some had khaki canvas inside and some had OD. What's not to like? Legit to me. Also, soles were replaced all the time. Still are actually but it was once as common as wristwatch maintenance. Oh, wait. Dave That is what having a welted boot is all about! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pararaftanr2 Posted February 13, 2021 Share #15 Posted February 13, 2021 On 1/28/2021 at 4:56 PM, ArchangelDM said: Thanks everyone ! I was confused by the soft leather as seen them rough side out also Those do appear to have been "rough side out". It was common when troops were in garrison, to modify their boots for a more "dressy" appearance . They would scrub off, or burn off, the outer roughness, then apply polish. When worn in the field, general wear and tear tended to smooth the rough finish as well and repeated application of boot dubbing had the same effect. Any any case, the upper cuffs with the buckles were always made of smooth-side-out leather. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArchangelDM Posted February 13, 2021 Author Share #16 Posted February 13, 2021 1 minute ago, pararaftanr2 said: Those do appear to have been "rough side out". It was common when troops were in garrison, to modify their boots for a more "dressy" appearance . They would scrub off, or burn off, the outer roughness, then apply polish. When worn in the field, general wear and tear tended to smooth the rough finish as well and repeated application of boot dubbing had the same effect. Any any case, the upper cuffs with the buckles were always made of smooth-side-out leather. Thanyou for the detailed reply - much appreciated - Dean Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Costa Posted February 13, 2021 Share #17 Posted February 13, 2021 they are good. looks to be made by Endicott Johnson. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dmar836 Posted February 13, 2021 Share #18 Posted February 13, 2021 The rough outs would have been like sponges in the winter and spring of '44/'45. The appearance of your boots is typical. They have made repros but if boots are as old and burnished-looking as yours, mine, and most are they are a safe bet. This stuff was common and most of the original buckle boots appear to have had it at one time or another. P.S. The "safety banana" is for scale and, of course, to prevent any accidents while taking the picture. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh B. Posted February 26, 2022 Share #19 Posted February 26, 2022 On 2/13/2021 at 8:44 AM, pararaftanr2 said: Those do appear to have been "rough side out". It was common when troops were in garrison, to modify their boots for a more "dressy" appearance . They would scrub off, or burn off, the outer roughness, then apply polish. When worn in the field, general wear and tear tended to smooth the rough finish as well and repeated application of boot dubbing had the same effect. Any any case, the upper cuffs with the buckles were always made of smooth-side-out leather. My grandfather, 5th AAF, complained about this vehemently. He said the army had all sorts of dumb rules, including polishing boots that were issued with a sueded finish. I’m positive he was talking about these. Stern words of dissent from a guy who rose from buck private to TSgt in about 2 years… Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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