6th.MG.BN Posted December 9, 2020 Share #1 Posted December 9, 2020 I did feel like a kid at Christmas opening the package this afternoon. I wish I could've found a name in the hat but, no. When I removed the officer's P1927 "goonie" EGA I was pleasantly surprised to find the Meyer maker mark and "Fire Bronze" marking. The hat shows wear and some staining and like I mentioned is unnamed. Ken Link to post Share on other sites
warguy Posted December 9, 2020 Share #2 Posted December 9, 2020 Whoa! Merry Christmas Ken, what a gorgeous ega! Not a bad hat either. Congrats! I am eagerly collecting Pre-WWII USMC material. Any Marine Corps Span Am era, WWI, Banana Wars, or China Marine related material is especially sought after. Let me know if you have something you want to part with. Link to post Share on other sites
Dirk Posted December 9, 2020 Share #3 Posted December 9, 2020 Very nice! Always looking for items associated with the China Marines! Visit chinamarine.org Link to post Share on other sites
6th.MG.BN Posted December 9, 2020 Author Share #4 Posted December 9, 2020 thanks guys. Ken Link to post Share on other sites
Wake1941 Posted December 9, 2020 Share #5 Posted December 9, 2020 Stunning visor, thanks for sharing Check out my eBay page, I sell military insignia and just about anything else I come acrossLink: https://www.ebay.com/sch/fitzkeemilitaria/m.html?item=223497878518&hash=item340982fbf6%3Ag%3ASs4AAOSw-llcxhqe&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2562 Please check out my web page as well for more items for sale https://fitzkeemilitaria.com/ Link to post Share on other sites
Brig Posted December 9, 2020 Share #6 Posted December 9, 2020 Hen's tooth.... Link to post Share on other sites
themick Posted December 9, 2020 Share #7 Posted December 9, 2020 All I can say is "WOW"!! Steve Link to post Share on other sites
b_hinch Posted December 9, 2020 Share #8 Posted December 9, 2020 Who's your Santa Claus? That's a jaw-dropper ... Link to post Share on other sites
Chrisusa1 Posted December 9, 2020 Share #9 Posted December 9, 2020 WOW WOW WOW. Amazing purchase! Link to post Share on other sites
themick Posted December 9, 2020 Share #10 Posted December 9, 2020 In addition to that magnificent emblem, the picture of the cap is interesting in another respect. The cap has on it the model 1937 chin strap (though the hat itself looks earlier, which is normal) The point I wish to make is, assuming the EGA was on that cap when it was last worn in service, you have that emblem being worn rather late, anywhere from 1937 on as long as that style of cap, with the brown color, was worn. It's not uncommon to see the droop wing EGAs being worn on the collar after 1937, especially for enlisted men, but most unusual to see a droop wing officer's EGA being worn that late. (Yes, it uncommon to see any officer cap size EGAs being worn.) So, no big revelation, but just another detail to notice. Steve Link to post Share on other sites
SgtMaddoxUSMC Posted December 9, 2020 Share #11 Posted December 9, 2020 That. Is. Sexy. Semper Fidelis, to all Marines past, present and future.. *Remembering CWO3 James Warren Maddox, USMC 1957-2018* LOOKING FOR EARLY USMC CHEVRONS & RANK INSIGNIA, COMPETITIVE MARKSMANSHIP AWARDS, RECRUITING MATERIALS AND POSTERS, PHOTOGRAPHS, PENNANTS, SIGNATURES, EARLY NUMBERED CAMPAIGN MEDALS, PRE-1900 USMC GOOD CONDUCT MEDAL, USMC ENGRAVED NAVY MARKSMANSHIP MEDAL, ANY MATERIALS RELATED TO 1ST BATTALION 9TH MARINES OR ANY OF THE THREE SHIPS BEARING THE NAME "USS MADDOX". Email me! Erik.D.Maddox@gmail.com Facebook: Erik Dean Maddox Link to post Share on other sites
teufelhunde.ret Posted December 9, 2020 Share #12 Posted December 9, 2020 Superb in all respects, the center piece for any USMC collection. The bended knee is not a tradition of our Corps. (General A. A. Vandegrift, USMC, 5 May 1946) Link to post Share on other sites
6th.MG.BN Posted December 9, 2020 Author Share #13 Posted December 9, 2020 Thanks gentlemen for the kind words. I had a hard time sleeping last night, I didn't want to roll over and crush the hat! Ken Link to post Share on other sites
6th.MG.BN Posted December 9, 2020 Author Share #14 Posted December 9, 2020 7 hours ago, b_hinch said: Who's your Santa Claus? That's a jaw-dropper ... It wasn't the Santa who wouldn't give the boy the nerf gun for Christmas. Haha. Ken Link to post Share on other sites
6th.MG.BN Posted December 9, 2020 Author Share #15 Posted December 9, 2020 5 hours ago, themick said: In addition to that magnificent emblem, the picture of the cap is interesting in another respect. The cap has on it the model 1937 chin strap (though the hat itself looks earlier, which is normal) The point I wish to make is, assuming the EGA was on that cap when it was last worn in service, you have that emblem being worn rather late, anywhere from 1937 on as long as that style of cap, with the brown color, was worn. It's not uncommon to see the droop wing EGAs being worn on the collar after 1937, especially for enlisted men, but most unusual to see a droop wing officer's EGA being worn that late. (Yes, it uncommon to see any officer cap size EGAs being worn.) So, no big revelation, but just another detail to notice. Steve Steve, I have to admit I didn't even notice the later pattern chin strap until you mentioned it. I wish there was a name in the hat to help put a timeline of wear of this hat and EGA to see if they were worn into the 1930's? Thanks for the observation. Ken Link to post Share on other sites
Scottz63 Posted December 9, 2020 Share #16 Posted December 9, 2020 That EGA is awesome with the perfect patina on it! Nice! Link to post Share on other sites
6th.MG.BN Posted December 9, 2020 Author Share #17 Posted December 9, 2020 11 minutes ago, Scottz63 said: That EGA is awesome with the perfect patina on it! Nice! Thanks. Ken Link to post Share on other sites
warguy Posted December 9, 2020 Share #18 Posted December 9, 2020 8 hours ago, themick said: In addition to that magnificent emblem, the picture of the cap is interesting in another respect. The cap has on it the model 1937 chin strap (though the hat itself looks earlier, which is normal) The point I wish to make is, assuming the EGA was on that cap when it was last worn in service, you have that emblem being worn rather late, anywhere from 1937 on as long as that style of cap, with the brown color, was worn. It's not uncommon to see the droop wing EGAs being worn on the collar after 1937, especially for enlisted men, but most unusual to see a droop wing officer's EGA being worn that late. (Yes, it uncommon to see any officer cap size EGAs being worn.) So, no big revelation, but just another detail to notice. Steve Here is a quick shot of the same model hat (a Horstmann product) with the thinner chin strap. Ken, I laid awake all night also thinking of your cap and ega. I think the only right thing to do here is for you and I to swap ega's so both caps align with the regs.🥴 In all seriousness, because these were officers items and private purchase, it is not too hard to imagine different model ega's appearing on hats of later or earlier vintage. On mine for instance, maybe it was purchased with an earlier ega and later updated to a later one (or of course more likely changed by a collector over the years). On yours, I understand those droop wings were not at all popular, so it is not too hard to imagine a retailer trying to pass them off on a later cap or those ega's sitting in a case perhaps years afterward. I doubt they were all gathered up at once and stuck in storage once the regs changed. Maybe a black Friday sale in 1939 to get rid of them? Just my two cents. Regardless of course, just a magnificent find you have there. Kevin I am eagerly collecting Pre-WWII USMC material. Any Marine Corps Span Am era, WWI, Banana Wars, or China Marine related material is especially sought after. Let me know if you have something you want to part with. Link to post Share on other sites
katieony Posted December 9, 2020 Share #19 Posted December 9, 2020 Love the EGA! Link to post Share on other sites
Dozer521 Posted December 9, 2020 Share #20 Posted December 9, 2020 You won the trifecta of EGA collecting: Officers 1926 Service Droopy, Hallmarked (Meyer) and Fire Bronze. A EGA that would be happy to feature in any collection and/or book. S/F Link to post Share on other sites
6th.MG.BN Posted December 9, 2020 Author Share #21 Posted December 9, 2020 4 hours ago, warguy said: Here is a quick shot of the same model hat (a Horstmann product) with the thinner chin strap. Ken, I laid awake all night also thinking of your cap and ega. I think the only right thing to do here is for you and I to swap ega's so both caps align with the regs.🥴 In all seriousness, because these were officers items and private purchase, it is not too hard to imagine different model ega's appearing on hats of later or earlier vintage. On mine for instance, maybe it was purchased with an earlier ega and later updated to a later one (or of course more likely changed by a collector over the years). On yours, I understand those droop wings were not at all popular, so it is not too hard to imagine a retailer trying to pass them off on a later cap or those ega's sitting in a case perhaps years afterward. I doubt they were all gathered up at once and stuck in storage once the regs changed. Maybe a black Friday sale in 1939 to get rid of them? Just my two cents. Regardless of course, just a magnificent find you have there. Kevin Kevin, You make a good point, except the part about swapping EGA's. It's one of those things that the true history of hat and EGA mating up is lost to time. Ken Link to post Share on other sites
6th.MG.BN Posted December 9, 2020 Author Share #22 Posted December 9, 2020 1 hour ago, katieony said: Love the EGA! Thanks, Ken Link to post Share on other sites
6th.MG.BN Posted December 9, 2020 Author Share #23 Posted December 9, 2020 59 minutes ago, Dozer521 said: You won the trifecta of EGA collecting: Officers 1926 Service Droopy, Hallmarked (Meyer) and Fire Bronze. A EGA that would be happy to feature in any collection and/or book. S/F I couldn't agree more. It wasn't until I received the hat and removed the EGA that I discovered the Meyer mark and Fire Bronze marking. Ken Link to post Share on other sites
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