Bearmon Posted December 5, 2020 Share #1 Posted December 5, 2020 I have compared this others on the forum and in the search engines, it looks good to me but I always like to ask, still learning on medals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirk Posted December 5, 2020 Share #2 Posted December 5, 2020 From what I see, a part from a replaced ribbon, I think it is looking good. Is it possible to get a close up of the rim? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bearmon Posted December 5, 2020 Author Share #3 Posted December 5, 2020 These are the only photo's I have. i will try to post some more when i see the medal in person. Thanks for the response. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank_Smith Posted December 5, 2020 Share #4 Posted December 5, 2020 FYI...The medal came from the collection of a long-time collector on the east coast. I have been asked to help liquidate the collection. I had a couple of others look at the medal before I listed it and they liked it. They also helped me develop a pricing range for it and some of the other pieces. I dropped it in the mail to you about an hour ago. I hope you have it soon. Frank Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aerialbridge Posted December 5, 2020 Share #5 Posted December 5, 2020 Nice catch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brig Posted December 6, 2020 Share #6 Posted December 6, 2020 Have my doubts...the 'G' in Shanghai is usually missing the horizontal line on top on these honey pot variants...it was the EGA version that usually had it. Letters on yours also look fatter and shaped differently...particularly the 'W' and the 'E' Of course, these medals were pressed together from two halves, so it's possible that some were pressed together with both parts...but important to see the side. Without a side shot...I wouldn't buy it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aerialbridge Posted December 6, 2020 Share #7 Posted December 6, 2020 This April 2009 thread started by bobgee (RIP) from April 2009 has at least two 1937 honeycart examples that I saw with non-serif G and horizontal line on the character. Has anyone done a survey of all known examples to determine data frequency of the two G variations? Please post sideview of your nice medal when you get it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirk Posted December 6, 2020 Share #8 Posted December 6, 2020 Brig the more I am around these the more I think they were cast multiple times using “multiple” dies....sand cast perhaps? There are a number of small variations in each one.... I have a right as rain 37 Honey cart with the G on the back and one that lacks it. You are correct the tell will be in rim, but the legs are another area I focus on...and these appear correctly proportioned. I think this one is probably good....will look forward to seeing additional photos. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bearmon Posted December 6, 2020 Author Share #9 Posted December 6, 2020 I appreciate all of the responses, I reread the long thread posted (and linked above) on the forum, there are a ton of little differences between medals. It is a great learning experience. I am looking forward to getting the medal in hand and doing a comparison to all the pictures posed on the forum. Keep those comments coming. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brig Posted December 7, 2020 Share #10 Posted December 7, 2020 7 hours ago, Dirk said: Brig the more I am around these the more I think they were cast multiple times using “multiple” dies....sand cast perhaps? There are a number of small variations in each one.... I have a right as rain 37 Honey cart with the G on the back and one that lacks it. You are correct the tell will be in rim, but the legs are another area I focus on...and these appear correctly proportioned. I think this one is probably good....will look forward to seeing additional photos. As we've discussed in the past, I also look for details on the head Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KASTAUFFER Posted December 9, 2020 Share #11 Posted December 9, 2020 He is a real Navy 1937 with a hooked G Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aerialbridge Posted December 9, 2020 Share #12 Posted December 9, 2020 As far as the "hooked G" variation, just among the medals posted here, there seem to be at least 2 different strikes. IMO, the top 2 medals appear to be different strikes than the bottom 2. The top 2 have a somewhat similar engraving style, but I wouldn't go as far as to say likely the same engraver. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bearmon Posted December 10, 2020 Author Share #13 Posted December 10, 2020 11 hours ago, aerialbridge said: As far as the "hooked G" variation, just among the medals posted here, there seem to be at least 2 different strikes. IMO, the top 2 medals appear to be different strikes than the bottom 2. The top 2 have a somewhat similar engraving style, but I wouldn't go as far as to say likely the same engraver. I also noticed the "3" in 1937 is noticeably different on the top left medal, and somewhat different on the bottom left medal then on the two medals on the right side Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirk Posted December 11, 2020 Share #14 Posted December 11, 2020 Have you got your Soochow in yet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aerialbridge Posted December 11, 2020 Share #15 Posted December 11, 2020 Looks to me like Dirk's medal and the unnamed one that is the subject of this thread are "cast mates". Be interesting to compare side by side rim images. Dirk, in case you didn't know, 1 Lt Joseph M----, Jr. (1914-1966) is buried at Arlington. Here's a photo of him and his wife when he was a sergeant major for your site. And the muster roll from USS Chaumont when he sailed for Shanghai and the 4th Marines on 5/21/37 as a corporal. His wife Louise died in 2010 at 90. Which if you obtained your medal sometime after that would jibe nicely. Sadly, he may have been struggling with PTSD following WW II as he took his life at his home in McLean, VA at age 52 per ancestry death cert. RIP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirk Posted December 11, 2020 Share #16 Posted December 11, 2020 Aerial thank you!!! The group came out of Maryland several years ago....so it makes sense on the passing of his wife. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bearmon Posted December 12, 2020 Author Share #17 Posted December 12, 2020 On 12/10/2020 at 7:37 PM, Dirk said: Have you got your Soochow in yet? Still waiting, apparently it was moving from PO to PO in Colorado, I have 5 items in the USPS system right now that have not shown movement since the 8th. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wake1941 Posted December 12, 2020 Share #18 Posted December 12, 2020 1 minute ago, Bearmon said: Still waiting, apparently it was moving from PO to PO in Colorado, I have 5 items in the USPS system right now that have not shown movement since the 8th. You aren’t the only one, I’ve got quite a few things with no movement Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bearmon Posted December 12, 2020 Author Share #19 Posted December 12, 2020 1 minute ago, Wake1941 said: You aren’t the only one, I’ve got quite a few things with no movement yeah its getting a little scary Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Dentino Posted December 12, 2020 Share #20 Posted December 12, 2020 25 minutes ago, Bearmon said: yeah its getting a little scary I have some rather "trivial" items also that have not arrived yet although it has been a LONG time since buying them. I suppose I will just wait, but glad I'm not waiting on anything as cool as a Soochow Creek medal! Mine can be easily forgotten and written off to whatever it is that is taking the post so darned long to get stuff to the final destination these days! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aerialbridge Posted December 12, 2020 Share #21 Posted December 12, 2020 Glad to help, Dirk. You've got a cool medal and probably not many out there that have a pic of the Marine to go with them, and a sergeant major in dress blues, no less. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bearmon Posted December 15, 2020 Author Share #22 Posted December 15, 2020 Finally received the medal. Shots of the edge Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bearmon Posted December 15, 2020 Author Share #23 Posted December 15, 2020 The last view is of the suspension ring top view Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KASTAUFFER Posted December 15, 2020 Share #24 Posted December 15, 2020 Looks good to me Kurt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirk Posted December 15, 2020 Share #25 Posted December 15, 2020 Yup it’s a good one! Congrats!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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