Steel pot helmet pics for a buddy.

[M1Garandy]

I don't know anything about USGI steel pots, but a buddy is asking for identification and information about one he's got. 

 

The liner looks to have a Firestone logo in it, but that's about all I know.

 

What can you tell us about the helmet in these pics? Helmet Pics

 

Thanks, 

[MattS]

Both shells look like rear seam swivel bales (RS/SB), late WW2 production. Heat lot stamp numbers won't tell you much, they are both rear seam and therefore late war (1944-45). Any original shell with sewn on khaki straps is WW2, swivel bales being later than fixed bales. Next came sewn on OD green straps, then green painted buckled-on straps, then black buckled-on straps in Vietnam, and finally angled clip-on straps at the end.

I can't comment on the model or originality of the USMC camo cover, but I think the slits make it a later one. Does it have USMC insignia on the front?

The one liner has a glossy 5th Army parade finish but is a WW2 Firestone. The other liner might be late WW2 or Korea, can't tell the actual color of the webbing on my screen. Is there a grommet hole in the front?

Here's my handy chart for dating liners.

 

[M1Garandy]

Thanks, I fired off your questions to the owner and will update when I have answers. 

[M1Garandy]

Pics are updated. Helmet cover is marked with maker markings and an EGA. One helmet liner looks to have a grommet the other does not.

[manayunkman]

This might help.

[manayunkman]

The USMC camo cover is dated 1953.

 

So if the cover is original to that helmet it was used after Korea.

[MattS]

The liner without the grommet in the front is a P55 (1955-1963) model. That would jive with the USMC cover being used in the 1950s. Shell straps weren't updated but that's not uncommon, i.e. "If they ain't broke, don't fix them".

[Cap Camouflage Pattern I]

10 hours ago, MattS said:

Both shells look like rear seam swivel bales (RS/SB), late WW2 production. Heat lot stamp numbers won't tell you much, they are both rear seam and therefore late war (1944-45). Any original shell with sewn on khaki straps is WW2, swivel bales being later than fixed bales. Next came sewn on OD green straps, then green painted buckled-on straps, then black buckled-on straps in Vietnam, and finally angled clip-on straps at the end.

I can't comment on the model or originality of the USMC camo cover, but I think the slits make it a later one. Does it have USMC insignia on the front?

The one liner has a glossy 5th Army parade finish but is a WW2 Firestone. The other liner might be late WW2 or Korea, can't tell the actual color of the webbing on my screen. Is there a grommet hole in the front?

Here's my handy chart for dating liners.

 

Great straight-forward flowchart, I'd like to make one amendment, the removable suspension was introduced in 1972, and there was a single odd 1974 contract without removable suspension 

[MattS]

On 11/25/2020 at 9:29 PM, Cap Camouflage Pattern I said:

Great straight-forward flowchart, I'd like to make one amendment, the removable suspension was introduced in 1972, and there was a single odd 1974 contract without removable suspension 

That's true as M1C liners never had the removable suspension. 

[M1Garandy]

Thanks to everyone for the help.

 

Before he takes these to the next gunshow with a $10 price tag on them, any thoughts on what they might be worth?

 

Thanks.

[MattS]

I’d price the plain one and WW2 liner at $150 and the USMC covered one with P55 liner at $200 and go from there.