m1a2u2 Posted November 24, 2020 Share #1 Posted November 24, 2020 Let me know what you all think. Paint looks pretty weathered. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BILL THE PATCH Posted November 24, 2020 Share #2 Posted November 24, 2020 Looks like a winnerSent from my moto g(7) play using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
m1a2u2 Posted November 27, 2020 Author Share #3 Posted November 27, 2020 Any idea on value? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cap Camouflage Pattern I Posted November 27, 2020 Share #4 Posted November 27, 2020 $1K+ if real Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
644td Posted November 27, 2020 Share #5 Posted November 27, 2020 Is there a back story to the helmet and do you have pictures of the inside? marty Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blacksmith Posted November 27, 2020 Share #6 Posted November 27, 2020 It’s hard to give opinions on just these two pictures. I see some things I like and don’t like. That color brown looks comparable with known good helmets of the period. On the other hand, the overall helmet looks scrubbed / has what looks like unnatural wear in my opinion. Seems like a lot of the controversy on USMF starts when opinions on value start flowing - particularly on helmets. My opinion = I don’t see $1000 here. Rarity is certainly a consideration, but so is condition. More pictures would help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vintageproductions Posted November 27, 2020 Share #7 Posted November 27, 2020 Hasn't this helmet either been shown here before or on WAF? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cap Camouflage Pattern I Posted November 27, 2020 Share #8 Posted November 27, 2020 1 hour ago, vintageproductions said: Hasn't this helmet either been shown here before or on WAF? This is at least the 3rd CSQG Saigon 5th district helmet in a collection, along with at least one more surviving one that is probably in a collection by now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
m1a2u2 Posted November 27, 2020 Author Share #9 Posted November 27, 2020 1 hour ago, Cap Camouflage Pattern I said: This is at least the 3rd CSQG Saigon 5th district helmet in a collection, along with at least one more surviving one that is probably in a collection by now. Have any pictures of real ones? I've been looking but can't find any. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
USMC-RECON0321 Posted November 27, 2020 Share #10 Posted November 27, 2020 6 hours ago, Blacksmith said: It’s hard to give opinions on just these two pictures. I see some things I like and don’t like. That color brown looks comparable with known good helmets of the period. On the other hand, the overall helmet looks scrubbed / has what looks like unnatural wear in my opinion. Seems like a lot of the controversy on USMF starts when opinions on value start flowing - particularly on helmets. My opinion = I don’t see $1000 here. Rarity is certainly a consideration, but so is condition. More pictures would help. I have to agree with you on the odd look of the wear and age on this helmet. Based on just those pictures I sure don't get that good feeling I like to start with when I first lay eyes on a painted helmet (Of any kind). Especially the bottom of the "5" looks really odd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
m1a2u2 Posted November 28, 2020 Author Share #11 Posted November 28, 2020 Hopefully we can see something to compare it to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cap Camouflage Pattern I Posted November 28, 2020 Share #12 Posted November 28, 2020 7 hours ago, m1a2u2 said: Have any pictures of real ones? I've been looking but can't find any. qwb123 posted this photograph taken in Saigon in 1994-1995 by Louis Cheng in this thread: https://www.usmilitariaforum.com/forums/index.php?/topic/288025-saigon-hcm-city-1995/ USMF Member Eugen owns this one which he shared on USMF: https://www.usmilitariaforum.com/forums/index.php?/topic/182661-biệt-đoàn-5-csdc/ (the speculation that this is a CSDC BD5 helmet is false, it belongs to a CSGQ rapid reaction force of Saigon's 5th district. I know he also shared this on WAF but I can't find it at the moment. Before he got it this was listed on vietnam-militaria.com for $800 This one belongs to Jack Ewing on Facebook and Instagram Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cap Camouflage Pattern I Posted November 28, 2020 Share #13 Posted November 28, 2020 Chief of Special Branch Nguyen Van Than. Views of Binh Tuy outpost in the 6th precinct on the outskirts of Saigon; Binh Tuy. May 29th 1968 by photojournalist Francois Sully, shared on WGBH Open Archive. These three were taken by photojournalist Eddie Adams in Cho Lon on May 31st 1968. They also show the CSQG rapid reaction force of Saigon's 6th District which together with the 5th make up Cho Lon. Here is a map of Saigon made some time after June 1973 showing the districts. Unfortunately I don't know who originally shared it so I can't credit them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
m1a2u2 Posted November 28, 2020 Author Share #14 Posted November 28, 2020 Outstanding! Thanks so much! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
m1a2u2 Posted November 29, 2020 Author Share #15 Posted November 29, 2020 Here is the helmet liner. Odd suspension system. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
m1a2u2 Posted December 3, 2020 Author Share #16 Posted December 3, 2020 Here are some more pictures as requested. What do you all think? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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