spagg Posted November 1, 2020 Share #1 Posted November 1, 2020 Let see who has the earliest M1 Carbines. I'll start the thread off with my 1942 Inland and see what happens. Yes, the peep site is off, the original owner that I bought it from back in the day switched it out with this later adjustable site. I do have the original peep site that he gave me put away somewhere. 48180 Spag Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thorin6 Posted November 1, 2020 Share #2 Posted November 1, 2020 Why not have the yin and the yang; the earliest and the latest (original as issued)? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spagg Posted November 1, 2020 Author Share #3 Posted November 1, 2020 44 minutes ago, thorin6 said: Why not have the yin and the yang; the earliest and the latest (original as issued)? I really would like to see early M1 Carbines. I see a lot of late War but early war seems to be rarer. IMO. If I get no participation in this thread then I will make a change. Maybe a good idea, lets see what happen for now. I know there are M1 Carbine collectors on this forum! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
collector Posted November 1, 2020 Share #4 Posted November 1, 2020 Unusual because the barrel just has the year, not month. All Inland except firing pin (Winchester). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirt Detective Posted November 1, 2020 Share #5 Posted November 1, 2020 My early Carbine is a Inland with a barrel date of 7-42. What is your barrel date ( guessing october?) Do you have a side shot? would love to see more. Anyway here is my july 42 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spagg Posted November 1, 2020 Author Share #6 Posted November 1, 2020 Collector, Dirt Detective nice looking M1 Carbines. 11304 beats me by a mile!! Excellent! I know there are more out there! Lets see them! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spagg Posted November 1, 2020 Author Share #7 Posted November 1, 2020 My Barrel date 8-42 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirt Detective Posted November 1, 2020 Share #8 Posted November 1, 2020 34 minutes ago, spagg said: My Barrel date 8-42 How does the rest look? Is the stock correct? If I was you I would hunt that original rear sight down and put it back on..real easy to do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
painter777 Posted November 1, 2020 Share #9 Posted November 1, 2020 Hello thorin6, Haven't heard from you since you posted about your S.M.Co. 43 sling on Milsurps. That post is still there in a 'Sticky Thread'. I was recently sent a photo file of a friends WRA 1,000,213. Original with Blued Serif S flip sight base. My earliest would be a original WRA 1,030,621 with Blued Serif S rear sight base. Charlie-P777 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
everforward Posted November 1, 2020 Share #10 Posted November 1, 2020 Here’s a couple of old shots of my Inland, barrel dated 4-43. I will try to take a fresh one of the whole rifle as an overview soon, but this is has been my keeper carbine for many years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
painter777 Posted November 1, 2020 Share #11 Posted November 1, 2020 7 minutes ago, everforward said: shots of my Inland, Looks nice, really sharp stampings. Same friend of mine with WRA 1000213 recently shared a new album with Inland 1142. Flip sight is S~ Slingwell with very light OVERTON, light Crossed Cannon, Ordnance Bomb and L A. Charlie-P777 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
everforward Posted November 1, 2020 Share #12 Posted November 1, 2020 Just taken- fresh higher-res pics. Pretty sure mine is in the range of many observed M1-A1 Paratrooper versions, but obviously it’s not one of those, lol......My example was made after they stopped stamping the ‘glyphs’ on top of the stock, just forward of the receiver and hidden by the handguard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
painter777 Posted November 1, 2020 Share #13 Posted November 1, 2020 21 minutes ago, everforward said: they stopped stamping the ‘glyphs’ on top of the stock, just forward of the receiver and hidden by the handguard. Do you mean NO 'Glyphs' on the barrel flat ? If no Glyphs, Is there a BI stamped on the flat behind the gas cylinder? As in a Brown Lipe Chapin barrel for Inland. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thorin6 Posted November 1, 2020 Share #14 Posted November 1, 2020 My earliest is an Underwood, but I'll have to wait until I get home to post a picture. I think it's a 4-43 dated barrel with all the early features. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EmperorWangDong Posted November 1, 2020 Share #15 Posted November 1, 2020 59 minutes ago, painter777 said: Looks nice, really sharp stampings. Same friend of mine with WRA 1000213 recently shared a new album with Inland 1142. Flip sight is S~ Slingwell with very light OVERTON, light Crossed Cannon, Ordnance Bomb and L A. Charlie-P777 Thats one of the earliest ones I've seen! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
everforward Posted November 1, 2020 Share #16 Posted November 1, 2020 6 minutes ago, painter777 said: Do you mean NO 'Glyphs' on the barrel flat ? If no Glyphs, Is there a BI stamped on the flat behind the gas cylinder? As in a Brown Lipe Chapin barrel for Inland. The glyphs on the stocks (not the barrel) that have them would be located on the left side of the stock, just forward of the receiver, where the edge of the stock and edge of the handguard meet....pretty sure the only way to see the stamping s is to remove the handguard to see the top edges of the stock.....They are stamped symbols that are similar to what Remington put on the bottom of 03-A3 stocks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
painter777 Posted November 1, 2020 Share #17 Posted November 1, 2020 Only markings I'm familiar with on the stocks left side would be the slingwell markings. And Rebuild markings, after rebuild. Right side would have the Crossed Cannons acceptance stamp, which varied depending on maker. Some with circled P proof on the bottom of the pistol grip. ETA: Unless you mean the Stamps found on the Left side of the M1 garand.... ? See link about 1/2 way down for Stock Markings: http://www.uscarbinecal30.com/stocks.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
everforward Posted November 1, 2020 Share #18 Posted November 1, 2020 4 minutes ago, painter777 said: Only markings I'm familiar with on the stocks left side would be the slingwell markings. And Rebuild markings, after rebuild. Right side would have the Crossed Cannons acceptance stamp, which varied depending on maker. Some with circled P proof on the bottom of the pistol grip. ETA: Unless you mean the Stamps found on the Left side of the M1 garand.... ? These markings would be found on an original Inland earlier than mine, and I wanna say there was a thread on here some time ago that spoke of them, and with pics too......maybe someone reading will recall it as well...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
painter777 Posted November 1, 2020 Share #19 Posted November 1, 2020 About 1/2 way down you'll see 'Stock Markings' Link: http://www.uscarbinecal30.com/stocks.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
painter777 Posted November 1, 2020 Share #20 Posted November 1, 2020 IIRC, There was a Duck Foot type stamp that was found on some early Inlands, but also seen on NM Garands and even some 1911's. The GCA article thought is was a stamp used after a 2nd High Pressure Test Firing. But IDK if that is correct. A fact is these do show up on some US Arms, Randomly. Pictured here on a Inland 20849x; And here on a late NM Garand; Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirt Detective Posted November 1, 2020 Share #21 Posted November 1, 2020 1 hour ago, everforward said: These markings would be found on an original Inland earlier than mine, and I wanna say there was a thread on here some time ago that spoke of them, and with pics too......maybe someone reading will recall it as well...... My Inland 1-43 has a weird mark on the wood left of the bolt face. I will try and find a pic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
everforward Posted November 1, 2020 Share #22 Posted November 1, 2020 17 minutes ago, painter777 said: IIRC, There was a Duck Foot type stamp that was found on some early Inlands, but also seen on NM Garands and even some 1911's. The GCA article thought is was a stamp used after a 2nd High Pressure Test Firing. But IDK if that is correct. A fact is these do show up on some US Arms, Randomly. Pictured here on a Inland 20849x; And here on a late NM Garand; This is what I refer to, yes. It’s my understanding that the markings were no longer applied by the time my own Carbine was made..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
painter777 Posted November 1, 2020 Share #23 Posted November 1, 2020 17 minutes ago, Dirt Detective said: My Inland 1-43 DD, I have a old post on Milsurps where I linked your post, where you called it a Eagles head. See my reply #18 in the link below. Problem is the link back to your post here is dead. https://www.milsurps.com/showthread.php?t=20694&page=2 Charlie-Painter777 ETA: @ everforward They were very scarce, very few ever reported in the Carbine Club Newsletters or Data sheets. I can't add any more info, but glad we got to the bottom of it.... some what :- D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirt Detective Posted November 1, 2020 Share #24 Posted November 1, 2020 Here is the marking on my 1-43 Inland . Looks like it could be a partial duck foot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spagg Posted November 1, 2020 Author Share #25 Posted November 1, 2020 1 hour ago, painter777 said: IIRC, There was a Duck Foot type stamp that was found on some early Inlands, but also seen on NM Garands and even some 1911's. The GCA article thought is was a stamp used after a 2nd High Pressure Test Firing. But IDK if that is correct. A fact is these do show up on some US Arms, Randomly. Pictured here on a Inland 20849x; And here on a late NM Garand; Never seen that stamping before? I was hoping the thread would take off, it will be interesting to see who has what. Nice bunch of great looking M1 Carbines posted. I will post more pics of my Inland later on this evening. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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