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A cheap find recently but I have no idea where these chinstrap originated from.

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

 

I know it's post WW2 as it appears it's sand finish, the number appears to be buried and after reading a lot of M1's were scattered around the world to be used by others.

 

Regards Wayne

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Exactly. This is a danish chinstrap setup. I had one years ago and posted its here. I ll dig a little bit in my old topics. 

Cheers

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5 minutes ago, krautpot said:

Exactly. This is a danish chinstrap setup. I had one years ago and posted its here. I ll dig a little bit in my old topics. 

Cheers

Here it is.

 

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I looked and looked through this site & others for the exact rivets (there are many varieties) used on mine but to no avail........and then you've kindly provided a link and there they are, the exact rivets! Thank you both krautpot & archangelDM I very much appreciate it.

 

I'm supposing now that the helmet may also be danish made and a variant of the US M1?

 

But now why white is a question that interests me too?

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5 hours ago, ispy said:

I looked and looked through this site & others for the exact rivets (there are many varieties) used on mine but to no avail........and then you've kindly provided a link and there they are, the exact rivets! Thank you both krautpot & archangelDM I very much appreciate it.

 

I'm supposing now that the helmet may also be danish made and a variant of the US M1?

 

But now why white is a question that interests me too?

I'm glad that I could help. Nice helmet! Mine was a rear seam too, whithout heatstamp. 

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This is a diaward helmet, from around Early-mid 1950s made by diaward steels works in Hong Kong. It is all magnetic, shell, rim, bails, rivets and chinstrap adjustment bar. Only the j hook and buckle are of a copper alloy (brass). 
 

This looks very much like the Danish version (made in 1952), but this is not a danish version, army nor civil defense version. Army version has other bails, while civil defense version has a stamped serial number in the back of the rim, inside. The 2nd rivet by the j hook, does not go all the way though on the danish versions. The rim joint in the back overlaps on the danish version, this has a space. Everything else is the same.

 

My guess it’s front a Southeast Asian country, made prior to 1960, as diaward switched bail types by that time. These chinstraps are 100% diaward style.

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This reminds me a lot of Kuwaiti used M1 helmets during the Iraqi invasion. I am not sure if Kuwait purchased M1's from Denmark - but they are very similar. 

 

William 

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Just wanted to show the danish version of the diaward helmet (made in 1952)

first 4 images is from the army. Army version is missing its j hook. Rest images is from the civil defense version.
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5 hours ago, BSRmilitaria said:

This reminds me a lot of Kuwaiti used M1 helmets during the Iraqi invasion. I am not sure if Kuwait purchased M1's from Denmark - but they are very similar. 

 

William 

Hi william

 

I looked at those and from memory they're M80's but they have vents and rivets exposed on the outside of the helmet......unless of course you were alluding to something else.

 

 

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1 minute ago, ispy said:

Hi william

 

I looked at those and from memory they're M80's but they have vents and rivets exposed on the outside of the helmet......unless of course you were alluding to something else.

 

 

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Thanks for the photo! Funny enough that is actually my helmet! What you posted was an Iraqi M80 helmet, which is different to the Kuwaiti M1 I was referring to. During the Iraqi invasion of Kuwait, some were stollen and used by the Iraqi military, but typically we dont see them in Iraq. Unfortunately I do not have an example to post at the moment, though next time I find one, I will post it here for reference. The paint used on the Kuwaiti M1's were very similar in color to the one posted here originally.

 

William 

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5 hours ago, twthmoses said:

Just wanted to show the danish version of the diaward helmet (made in 1952)

first 4 images is from the army. Army version is missing its j hook. Rest images is from the civil defense version.
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You may be onto something there twthmoses as there are certainly similarities like the chin strap and rivets which are identical.

 

The bales are different though and I can't find any number similar to yours.

 

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19 minutes ago, BSRmilitaria said:

 

Thanks for the photo! Funny enough that is actually my helmet! What you posted was an Iraqi M80 helmet, which is different to the Kuwaiti M1 I was referring to. During the Iraqi invasion of Kuwait, some were stollen and used by the Iraqi military, but typically we dont see them in Iraq. Unfortunately I do not have an example to post at the moment, though next time I find one, I will post it here for reference. The paint used on the Kuwaiti M1's were very similar in color to the one posted here originally.

 

William 

 

I thought it was yours as I know your background when you photograph and am aware of your site.....which I enjoy btw.

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21 minutes ago, BSRmilitaria said:

 

Thanks for the photo! Funny enough that is actually my helmet! What you posted was an Iraqi M80 helmet, which is different to the Kuwaiti M1 I was referring to. During the Iraqi invasion of Kuwait, some were stollen and used by the Iraqi military, but typically we dont see them in Iraq. Unfortunately I do not have an example to post at the moment, though next time I find one, I will post it here for reference. The paint used on the Kuwaiti M1's were very similar in color to the one posted here originally.

 

William 

 

That would be great William and it makes sense what you are saying.

 

But white, as mine is. What would that signify?

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3 hours ago, ispy said:

 

You may be onto something there twthmoses as there are certainly similarities like the chin strap and rivets which are identical.

 

The bales are different though and I can't find any number similar to yours.

 

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it’s only the Danish army version that has this type bails, I have never seen them on any other helmet. The civil defence version has US style like yours. Diaward would later (Late 50s) use the Euro style where the middle goes on the outside, like German and Austrian LS an U.SCH shells.

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