Scottz63 Posted October 20, 2020 Share #1 Posted October 20, 2020 1932 Frankford Arsenal. Just picked them up yesterday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cagedfalcon Posted October 20, 2020 Share #2 Posted October 20, 2020 Nice find.They look familiar though.....Sent from my SM-N960U using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scottz63 Posted October 20, 2020 Author Share #3 Posted October 20, 2020 Thanks! Those are cool too. Lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
viking4zero Posted October 22, 2020 Share #4 Posted October 22, 2020 Some more early ones, the FA 9 11 is from the first military run. Of course it's the only 9 11 I have, but I've heard of complete 20rd. boxes popping up before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scottz63 Posted October 22, 2020 Author Share #5 Posted October 22, 2020 Nice collection! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
viking4zero Posted October 24, 2020 Share #6 Posted October 24, 2020 Scottz63, are you a collector of cartridges? I have some early doubles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AZPhil Posted October 24, 2020 Share #7 Posted October 24, 2020 Nice FA ammo, My Father worked there until it was closed down. Semper Fi Phil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scottz63 Posted October 24, 2020 Author Share #8 Posted October 24, 2020 1 hour ago, viking4zero said: Scottz63, are you a collector of cartridges? I have some early doubles. Just old .45 ACP, actually these are my first three. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
digi-shots Posted October 24, 2020 Share #9 Posted October 24, 2020 Do you have an FA 42 headstamped ones? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
viking4zero Posted October 24, 2020 Share #10 Posted October 24, 2020 1 hour ago, digi-shots said: Do you have an FA 42 headstamped ones? I found Evansville Chrysler, Evansville Chrysler Sebring, and WCC, All 42s, No FA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
viking4zero Posted October 24, 2020 Share #11 Posted October 24, 2020 1 hour ago, Scottz63 said: Just old .45 ACP, actually these are my first three. Only curious, but did you have to pay anything for them? Anything I have doubles of, I'll give you. The earliest is a FA 11 11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
viking4zero Posted October 24, 2020 Share #12 Posted October 24, 2020 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scottz63 Posted October 24, 2020 Author Share #13 Posted October 24, 2020 6 hours ago, viking4zero said: Only curious, but did you have to pay anything for them? Anything I have doubles of, I'll give you. The earliest is a FA 11 11 I payed $1 each for them. Wow! That would be awesome! I would really like to have any dated 1917, maker not important. I need at least 3 more rounds of any vintage .45 ACP to go with my display. Thanks, Scott Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GWS Posted October 24, 2020 Share #14 Posted October 24, 2020 Interesting posts and very nice pictures. I'm not a cartridge collector but have picked up a few odds & ends over the years. I've got a couple of 20rnd. boxes of Frankford Arsenal .45ACP. The one was opened and is headstamped FA 28. The other is still sealed but looks to be a later issue. Do the lot numbers give any indication to the year of manufacture? Is the printed information on the box any indication of the period is was made? The boxes are both wrapped in saran wrap so the photos are not real good, but I'm lazy and don't want to re-wrap them. One last question- Are there any good websites for military ammo collectors? Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silverplate Posted October 24, 2020 Share #15 Posted October 24, 2020 Collecting .45 ACP cartridges can be fascinating and challenging at the same time. The lot number can help date the boxes, but only if you have access to the service bulletins that were put out by the Ordnance Dept. annually. Frankford Arsenal was the primary supplier of the cartridges, supplemented by contracts during WWI and WWII. The .45 ACP cartridge was made in ball, tracer/signal, shot, and high pressure test, to name a few. The earliest cartridges were made in 1906, when the automatic pistol was undergoing developmental trials. Here are some photos of that early box, the rounds headstamped "FA 04 06" and the date stamped on the bottom of the box. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
viking4zero Posted October 24, 2020 Share #16 Posted October 24, 2020 9 hours ago, Scottz63 said: I payed $1 each for them. Wow! That would be awesome! I would really like to have any dated 1917, maker not important. I need at least 3 more rounds of any vintage .45 ACP to go with my display. Thanks, Scott Message me your address, I'll send a few loose ones. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
viking4zero Posted October 24, 2020 Share #17 Posted October 24, 2020 3 minutes ago, silverplate said: Collecting .45 ACP cartridges can be fascinating and challenging at the same time. The lot number can help date the boxes, but only if you have access to the service bulletins that were put out by the Ordnance Dept. annually. Frankford Arsenal was the primary supplier of the cartridges, supplemented by contracts during WWI and WWII. The .45 ACP cartridge was made in ball, tracer/signal, shot, and high pressure test, to name a few. The earliest cartridges were made in 1906, when the automatic pistol was undergoing developmental trials. Here are some photos of that early box, the rounds headstamped "FA 04 06" and the date stamped on the bottom of the box. Awesome! 2 piece box, with string to open it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scottz63 Posted October 24, 2020 Author Share #18 Posted October 24, 2020 That is a very cool box of ammo! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scottz63 Posted October 24, 2020 Author Share #19 Posted October 24, 2020 3 hours ago, viking4zero said: Message me your address, I'll send a few loose ones. Thanks! PM sent Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silverplate Posted October 25, 2020 Share #20 Posted October 25, 2020 Here's a photo of the inside of a similar box. I then used the photos to create a replica of that box for a client who wanted a display piece, but couldn't locate an original. The second photo is my replica. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scottz63 Posted October 25, 2020 Author Share #21 Posted October 25, 2020 Nice work! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ccyooper Posted October 25, 2020 Share #22 Posted October 25, 2020 Here is an odd ball cartridge box produced by FA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silverplate Posted October 26, 2020 Share #23 Posted October 26, 2020 That is a nice example of the developmental work that Frankford did before and during the war. Here's a pre-war round developed by Frankford to test rebuilt pistols. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scottz63 Posted October 26, 2020 Author Share #24 Posted October 26, 2020 2 really cool boxes! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ccyooper Posted October 26, 2020 Share #25 Posted October 26, 2020 SP - great box. I like the HPT boxes. Here is a set of FA setting gauges used to calibrate the dies for cartridge production. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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