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Pair of US WWII NURNBERG War Crimes Collar Insignia


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Hello All.  I have an opportunity to buy at auction what are stated to be a pair of US post-WWII Nurnberg War Crime Tribunal Collar Insignias.  I do not know if these are original.  Can you please review the attached photos and let me know your thoughts?  Also,I would like to know of their rarity, as they are a bit pricey.   The description states:

 

Pair of US World War II NURNBERG War Crimes Trials Distinctive Collar Insignia. They measure 1 1/8” wide by 1 7/16” tall. The front shows the scales of justice in the center with an eagle at the base. The reverse side is maker marked ‘L. CHR. LAUER NURNBERG’. They have a screw mount post and brass nut on the reverse side. One piece hand painted die struck brass construction.

 

Thanks.  Linas

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BILL THE PATCH

I'm not sure about these, but they are faked alot.

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I agree there are a lot of fakes, I have some pictures of both fake and supposedly real ones that I am comparing them with and I think these are a fake. I will add that I know quite a bit but am not quite an "expert" on DUIs and that I have never personally handled a pair of these, you should wait until a real "expert" chimes in before making a decision but I will try to help. 

 

That being said the back looks all wrong to me. Several pictures I have of reproductions have the weird marbling on the back, the pics I have of real ones do not. Additionally the hallmark letters look to "fat" making me think this is a cast. Finally, the painting is sloppy, the ending of the key is not painted and the paint is sloppy with the flames. There are a few other problems I will not mention but I do not think this is a real example. I welcome someone who knows better to correct me.

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TheCrustyBosun

The sloppy paint was the first flag I saw. Plus, you’d think it’d have a glossy enamel finish. No? Reminds me of some Soviet pins. 

R. Patterson

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“The Boatswain’s Mate and Coxswain is A JACK OF ALL TRADES AND A MASTER OF THEM ALL.”- 1944 edition of the BM2c training course material. 
“They gave us an engine that first went up and down. With some more technology, the engine went around. We know of steam and diesel, but what’s a main yard for? A sailor ain’t a sailor, ain’t a sailor anymore!”- The Last Shanty

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48 minutes ago, TheCrustyBosun said:

The sloppy paint was the first flag I saw. Plus, you’d think it’d have a glossy enamel finish. No? Reminds me of some Soviet pins. 

According to the trading post they can be found both enameled and painted. 

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19 minutes ago, Ray42 said:

According to the trading post they can be found both enameled and painted. 


Ah!  Good to know. Thanks. 

R. Patterson

Boatswains Mate

USCG 1998-2010

“The Boatswain’s Mate and Coxswain is A JACK OF ALL TRADES AND A MASTER OF THEM ALL.”- 1944 edition of the BM2c training course material. 
“They gave us an engine that first went up and down. With some more technology, the engine went around. We know of steam and diesel, but what’s a main yard for? A sailor ain’t a sailor, ain’t a sailor anymore!”- The Last Shanty

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