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This is a great thread, Owen. Thanks for taking the time to post all this. I came across a set that looks off to me...too much beige compared to the other examples that have been posted. First pattern? 

 

Thanks! 

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Jason
Amazing set !
I have yet to come across the camouflage name tapes in all my years ever !
I know of a set in Atlanta but that’s it.

The boonie is simply amazing in every way.
Very very rare and a joy to look at.
Thanks for sharing.

M
That is a made in Hong Kong modern shirt.

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M
Look below the Ciso Beogam prints.
I keep a section of the re print Windproof cloth to illustrate how old patterns can be made modern today.
The print on the shirt you showed is British Windproof same as my sample.
I keep and collect repo items to cross reference when they are close to the real thing.
It is course is in the wrong cut and print for an advisor.
Viet bullet proof is a different print.
The pants on the set might be real judging from the small section showing.


Cloth was being presented as part of a printed camouflage design meeting I was hosting for a men’s fashion company in Los Angeles.

I hope this helps

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M
Look below the Ciso Beogam prints.
I keep a section of the re print Windproof cloth to illustrate how old patterns can be made modern today.
The print on the shirt you showed is British Windproof same as my sample.
I keep and collect repo items to cross reference when they are close to the real thing.
It is course is in the wrong cut and print for an advisor.
Viet bullet proof is a different print.
The pants on the set might be real judging from the small section showing.


Cloth was being presented as part of a printed camouflage design meeting I was hosting for a men’s fashion company in Los Angeles.

I hope this helps

Owen


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Owen, thanks for this. Very helpful. It looks like they are printing British pattern and putting it together as Viet advisor? 

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It’s just within the last 10 years repo.
I am not up on eBay trends on who’s making what now but it’s one to stay clear from.
O


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aussie digger

Thanks Owen. 
looking online his are the only ones I have seen with bulletproof name, ARVN wings and ARVN rank. 
he served with team 162 in 1966. I was lucky to get a large amount of stuff from his estate but another member got another set of bullet proofs and some insignia including his team jump oval.

 

Jason

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That is quite the grouping indeed!
I know it’s a stretch but we’re there photos albums?

I just reached out to Claudio asking for his camouflage tape set images to compare.


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aussie digger

Owen, unfortunately no photos, papers or berets. I asked. It is a pretty large grouping in all honesty I probably bought too much but buying as much as I could was the only way to make sure I didnt miss out on any bits which worked out well as the hats were thrown in. It actually came from a lady clearing an estate outside of LA so there may still be family around there with photos etc?

 

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Have you reached out to Mike Martin about him at all ?
He’s usually good at knowing other 162 blokes.

Could you throw us a bone and show the boonie on its own ?

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aussie digger

I have not. I actually dont typically collect VN. this is really my only group. Is he on the forum?

I will get it dug out and get some extra photos for you when I get a break from work.

 

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There was no official issue Arvn airborne camouflage headgear except the famous Red beret.
Individuals used a shirt or pants and had the town tailor make one up in the acceptable cut .
There were caps,boonies in several cuts with this cap being the most common.
2nd pattern print.
Left is Martin’s
Right unknown Capt

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Inside is a joy to me as both have camouflage interiors.
The Martin has invisible Erdl and a makers label
The other later Erdl showing it was manufactured at least in 1968.


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The Martin cap has lost its insignia.

Shooting camouflage can be tricky as this cap has a complex print.
It looks different is sunlight to shade.
Here’s shade.

Grommets unpainted.


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aussie digger

Thanks Owen. I will try get in touch with him. I just missed a copy of the book on one of the deal pages. So far most of the history I have on the colonel is from his obituary put out by West Point.

C.G. Some great pieces there! 
Here is some more of the boonie. It’s interesting you can see where it was made from another garment.

Jason.

 

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CG !
Welcome aboard.
About time but off the grid is also most triumphant.

Fantastic grouping is some excellent and rare pieces.
But the story of how you got them is also as good as it gets.

Thanks for joining and sharing

Owen


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Jason
The boonie is cut from the first pattern print and like I said before very unique!
The use of regular parachute cloth rounds it out nicely.

It’s easy to see I have a soft spot for reversible Cammo items.
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aussie digger

Thanks Owen. Based off the small amount can you tell if the name tape and insignia are first or second pattern print. If first patten is nothing but a guess but I wonder if he took in a shirt and had the insignia and a hat made.

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Thanks Owen. 
looking online his are the only ones I have seen with bulletproof name, ARVN wings and ARVN rank. 
he served with team 162 in 1966. I was lucky to get a large amount of stuff from his estate but another member got another set of bullet proofs and some insignia including his team jump oval.
 
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Tapes are 2nd pattern.

A shirt would probably get 3 hats out of it maybe 4 if he’s a thrifty cutter.

There is one specific boonie that’s mAnufactured from table scraps that that was open market sold by the shops to who ever wanted one.
I will post pics of that in this thread.


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Here’s two very different boonie hats in the Bulletproof pattern.
The left one is very large and has a wide brim with tall crown and the right more in the Pork pie cut with an internal tailor shop label.


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