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A 1965 Marine AIT Potrait With Frog Skin Cover.


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A Striking One, no idea which base, Geiger or Pendleton, who knows maybe Ft Sill (Field Artillery) or wherever it was Engineers took their AIT.

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This was an earlier posting I made where the WWII/Korean War Frog Skin Cover was still used in these AIT portraits.

 

One Norman G. Poitras in 1965

 

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Lance Corporal Norman G. Poitras

Spt CO, 3rd ENG BN 3rd MAR DIV

KIA 22 August 1966 South Vietnam

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This is a late one, AIT portrait of one Paul Francis Quill, at the Marines Engineer AIT School in sometime in 1967! Quill now a Lance Corporal KIA with the 7th Engineer Battalion 1st Marine Division January 12 1968,

 

(Where did the Marines have their Engineer AIT then, anyone know? Fort Leonard Wood Missouri???)

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Rhscott

I am inclined to think studio pictures used props that they kept on hand and class after class used them for the pictures.  Marines like “salty” and old covers look salty.

At Ft Benning and McClellan I know for a fact the photo shop had helmets, hats, ascots and dress jackets on hand in multiple sizes for photo use.

Cool photos and they do indeed look “Salty”.

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I can verify the use of props. Although I went to basic in 1982, for the portraits,

they used a fake dress green uniform with the shirt and tie built into it.

It was open at the back, you would slip your arms in and it

was attached at the back and neck with velcro.

When they took this picture, we had not been issued class A's yet.

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The covers on these two were put in the same place....

The cammo pattern seems to be in the same place.

Looks like the same person put the covers on these two helmets.

 

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On 4/14/2024 at 11:28 AM, The Rooster said:

The covers on these two were put in the same place....

The cammo pattern seems to be in the same place.

Looks like the same person put the covers on these two helmets.

 

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Good eye that is the exact same cover but chinstraps reversed??...how the heck did that hapen?!!....mike

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11 hours ago, sgtdorango said:

Good eye that is the exact same cover but chinstraps reversed??...how the heck did that hapen?!!....mike

Hey Sarge. Im guessing two different helmets and the covers were put on by the same person. Maybe the photographer.

You know how some people like things that match or are symmetrical...

Thats something a photographer or the assistant would do with props in my opinion.

Im guessing they didnt notice the straps being mismatched so focused on the covers.

lol Im guessing civilian photographers working on base. Because also look how loose and sloppy the covers were put on.

The work of a civilian is my guess. A Marine or soldier would get the cover wet and put it on there tight

and let it dry and shrink up.

?

Dave

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I had assumed that it was the same helmet but different chinstraps. If someone took the cover off and put it back on they did a really good job at recreating how it looks like all the folds are in the exact same places between the two pictures.

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While doing some poking around in an attempt to find the source of the pictures, I came across an ID for the unkown marine in post #3

 

That appears to be CPL Wayne Lamont Jordan

Lima Co. 3/4 Marines

 

Cpl. Jordan was KIA on the 17th of March 1967

 

https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/121291736/wayne-lamont-jordan

 

According to his find a grave memorial he enlisted in 1965 rather than 1964

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I also found a second photo of LCpl Poitras, again wearing a frogskin cover. Clipping is from the July 21st 1965 edition of the Biddeford-Saco Journal. Looks like AIT was at Camp LeJeune

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Another Marine's portrait from the same paper, again wearing a frogskin cover

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Was it possible all Boots did the Infantry AIT and then moved on to another base for their true MOS AIT??? I say this as my cousin went to Fort Sill Oklahoma for Arty AIT in 1966, not sure if he just went there after Boot Camp at the Island or not.

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