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Light weight ARVN ERDL Boonie which came out of a local Goodwill a couple years ago. Nothing like seeing that in a bin of hats! So many times just disappointment. 

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CG
Fine pieces !
I know that surplus shop.
Some good wall hangings in there for sure.
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It’s common to see the FANK sets in brown dom as it appears they were the primary issue as the stocks became available.
Typical in country style sewing preset.

Suit is dated 69.


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And the name that’s probably been worn be the straps of the 56 gear.


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On real uniforms is always surprising to see the actual sloppy nature of in country sewing like on this SF Ssi paired with a hand stitch Airborne arc.


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I am not a big patch guy but if I am mistaken all the RK arcs Camo from the same batch and look like this.


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Vintage sewing looks like this.
Married into the rear of the jacket since both were new.


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Brown dom is the exact same pattern as the more commonly seen Green dom.
It is a hard print to actually say how many actual variations there are of the color combo as I am up to around 6 but I sure that’s wrong as different batch’s came before a standard went on line.
Usually printed on rip stop cloth I myself have found a poplin jacket that I traded to another collector many years ago.

Shades of the print can be quite flat brown to a rich pink hue like this above.
Overall considered the step child of the Vietnam Cammo patterns is one I have always liked its colors almost lived on to the 81 Woodland pattern.


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I have a few nice original period-made color pics I collected from all over the web with camouflage worn in Vietnam and I thought these might be of interest here:

 

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I think the 2nd man is wearing ARVN ERDL fatigues and boonie, and the 3th man has an ARVN ERDL helmet cover it seems.

 

 

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I think a nice (then) brand-new set of ERDL's worn by this advisor.

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US troops also wore ARVN Erdl print.
Here’s a 75th INF set named to a Japanese American 1970-71


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The CIB is the hallmark of a combat soldier and here is an in country late war typical set up with basic jump wings with Vietnamese production tape.
Sewn in the usual manner.
Camouflage uniforms with patches are the exception to the rule and this set has it all.
Owen


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Ted Yoshimura wearing the above uniform.
D co 2-7 Cav H co 75th Inf.
70-71 Vietnam.


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Cap Camouflage Pattern I
On 12/4/2020 at 6:25 PM, kammo-man said:

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No left sew on but the Cambodian is above.


If this was named it would be great but it is what it is.

If you can find someone who speaks Khmer maybe they can translate the name back to English, who knows how good the original translation was, may come out garbled, but worth a shot.

 

killer shirt regardless

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Cap Camouflage Pattern I

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Last week a question popped into my head, how large is the ERDL pattern?

I checked a poncho liner as it's all one big piece. The pattern is only 16" long before it repeats, that would be the circumference of the roller printing or rotary screen printing drum, I'm not sure which process was used.

But as for the width, I didn't find the answer in the poncho liner, it's more than the 5 feet width of the piece. Possibly 2 yards as that's a nice number for textiles.

 

While I had it out I compared the liner to an "RDF" shirt, was interesting to see the differences. Shirt should be NLABS-2 print, not sure what the liner is. 

On the left three quarters of the shirt the shapes are all the same, with minor differences in the details as it's clearly been redrawn. But on the right quarter just past the black Thailand looking shape it all suddenly changes with nothing looking the same. Not sure why.

 

The poncho liner is a FY83 contract, 2-3 years after the first woodland, and yet it is made in ERDL. I don't think they were ever made in woodland, which would mean ERDL was still being made for liners until replaced with UCP in the late 2000s.

 

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I should ask my son that question as he took my mint condition bolt of poplin erdl cloth and made a bed out of it in the living room.


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Last week a question popped into my head, how large is the ERDL pattern?
I checked a poncho liner as it's all one big piece. The pattern is only 16" long before it repeats, that would be the circumference of the roller printing or rotary screen printing drum, I'm not sure which process was used.
But as for the width, I didn't find the answer in the poncho liner, it's more than the 5 feet width of the piece. Possibly 2 yards as that's a nice number for textiles.
 
While I had it out I compared the liner to an "RDF" shirt, was interesting to see the differences. Shirt should be NLABS-2 print, not sure what the liner is. 
On the left three quarters of the shirt the shapes are all the same, with minor differences in the details as it's clearly been redrawn. But on the right quarter just past the black Thailand looking shape it all suddenly changes with nothing looking the same. Not sure why.
 
The poncho liner is a FY83 contract, 2-3 years after the first woodland, and yet it is made in ERDL. I don't think they were ever made in woodland, which would mean ERDL was still being made for liners until replaced with UCP in the late 2000s.
 
George.

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On 10/19/2020 at 7:00 PM, Harvs73 said:

Here is another item my father brought back from Vietnam - an ERDL wrap around to wear after a shower.

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I have a bunch of Woodland ripstop.  Might need to make one of these for hammock camping (no tent to change in).

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Photo by Jim Comer, D 3/31 Inf 1971-1972. ERDL Ponchos seem to have been much rarer than the ubiquitous ERDL poncho liner. Even at the end US involvement OD ponchos were the majority.

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On 12/5/2020 at 7:25 AM, kammo-man said:

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No left sew on but the Cambodian is above.


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I ask my Cambodian friend for translate.Him say "BAO" in Cambodia is Male like MR. in English.

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Spike
Beautiful sets shown.
All hard to find but in mint very hard to find.
The brown dom is rare !!
Owen


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