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88 ARRS DGT 14 What is this ? Also are these real or fake patches Theater Made


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Does anyone know what 88th ARRS DGT 14 is and is it an Army or Airforce unit ? These two patches were with Fake Vietnam War in country made patches. Is that what they are or are they good pieces made elsewhere in the 60s or 70s ?

Thank you

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It is the 38th Aerospace Rescue and Recovery Squadron Detachment 14. A USAF unit. These do not look like originals but it's hard to make a firm call based on these pics as they are too small to tell for sure.

 

Randy

Old Crow 1986
Posted

I'll get the ball rolling...

 

1) USAF 

2) ARRS stands for Aerospace (or Air) Rescue and Recovery Squadron

3) "Pedro" is a long established and historically revered call sign attached to certain helicopter rescue units

 - From http://www.usafhpa.org/callsigns.html  "The HH-60G Rescue Units in Afghanistan such as the 55th RQS use the call sign “Pedro”, it’s “a legacy call sign that reaches back to the early 1960′s and the HH-43 helicopter–the first rescue helicopter used in Vietnam”. (Although not readily known, the “Pedro” call sign was first used by H-5 and H-19's in Korea in the early 1950’s.)"

- See also https://www.ragay.nl/kaman-h-43-huskie/pedro-call-sign

 

Can't speak to the patches' authenticity or to the lineage of the  88th ARRS, Det 14. 

 

EDIT...Randy beat me to it.  He is spot on.  Hope I provided some detail

vintageproductions
Posted

Both are fake Vietnamese made pieces

Posted
On 8/28/2020 at 11:45 AM, Randy said:

It is the 38th Aerospace Rescue and Recovery Squadron Detachment 14. A USAF unit. These do not look like originals but it's hard to make a firm call based on these pics as they are too small to tell for sure.

 

Randy

Thank you Randy.

Chris

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On 8/28/2020 at 11:48 AM, Old Crow 1986 said:

I'll get the ball rolling...

 

1) USAF 

2) ARRS stands for Aerospace (or Air) Rescue and Recovery Squadron

3) "Pedro" is a long established and historically revered call sign attached to certain helicopter rescue units

 - From http://www.usafhpa.org/callsigns.html  "The HH-60G Rescue Units in Afghanistan such as the 55th RQS use the call sign “Pedro”, it’s “a legacy call sign that reaches back to the early 1960′s and the HH-43 helicopter–the first rescue helicopter used in Vietnam”. (Although not readily known, the “Pedro” call sign was first used by H-5 and H-19's in Korea in the early 1950’s.)"

- See also https://www.ragay.nl/kaman-h-43-huskie/pedro-call-sign

 

Can't speak to the patches' authenticity or to the lineage of the  88th ARRS, Det 14. 

 

EDIT...Randy beat me to it.  He is spot on.  Hope I provided some detail

Thank you Old Crow.

Chrs

Posted
On 8/28/2020 at 8:36 PM, vintageproductions said:

Both are fake Vietnamese made pieces

Thank you.

Chris

Posted

Here is one out of my collection which I believe to be original.

 

 

 

 

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