US NAVY SAILOR FLAT HAT

[L11-VELASCO]

Comments please:original... Period...? Thanks

[DocCollector1441]

Itd appear to be WW1 to 1920s, I would lean towards the 20s personally due to the plain US Navy tally, though those did exist during WW1.

[L11-VELASCO]

2 hours ago, DocCollector1441 said:

Itd appear to be WW1 to 1920s, I would lean towards the 20s personally due to the plain US Navy tally, though those did exist during WW1.

You mean the generic US NAVY cap tally was used during WW1 because I asumed this tally begun to be used in 1941

[DocCollector1441]

The U.S. Navy tally was introduced during WW1 and appears to be most commonly used by sailors assigned to shore stations alongside the "US Naval Reserve Force" and "US Naval Reserve" cap tallies. The construction and shape of that cap ended in 1933 with the introduction of the "Donald Duck" cap that was worn through WWII. 

[L11-VELASCO]

9 hours ago, DocCollector1441 said:

The U.S. Navy tally was introduced during WW1 and appears to be most commonly used by sailors assigned to shore stations alongside the "US Naval Reserve Force" and "US Naval Reserve" cap tallies. The construction and shape of that cap ended in 1933 with the introduction of the "Donald Duck" cap that was worn through WWII. 

Hi

You mean cap US NAVY matches good to this cap and used since WW1 because this tally US NAVY started in WW2 in 1941 later Pearl Harbour attack and what period you think aprox is the cap please? 

Thanks in advance 

Fernando 

[DocCollector1441]

BuNav CL NO. 13-18 published on 14 January 1918 on the subject of cap ribbons is quoted below:

"New cap ribbons of the following designations: 'U.S. NAVY' and 'U.S. NAVAL RESERVE' have been adopted. All men serving on regular Naval vessels including those in the Fleet, Train, and Transport Force, and at regular shore stations should wear ribbons giving the name of the ship or station, as at present.

"All men serving on shore in foreign service, and on board special War Department ships or other small ships taken over temporarily, shall wear 'U.S. Navy' ribbons.

"All reservists doing duty on shore in the various Naval Districts and on small craft in the districts should wear the 'U.S. Naval Reserve' ribbons. Men under instructions in special schools established for this present emergency or at rifle ranges shall wear 'U.S. Navy' or 'U.S. Naval Reserve' ribbons according to their status.

"The 'U.S. Naval Reserve Force' ribbons may be worn until the present supply is exhausted. Men doing armed guard duty will continue to wear the special ribbons already assigned to them."

BuNav CL NO. 179-18 published on 30 September 1918 prescribed that the cap ribbons bear the legend "U.S. Navy." It is quoted below:

"The instructions contained in reference (a) are here by rescinded, and hereafter cap ribbons bearing the legend 'U.S. Navy' shall be worn by all enlisted personnel of the Navy and Naval Reserve Force - this to take effect when the supply of ribbons, as at present authorized is exhausted." (Ref: (a) BuNav. Circular Letter No. 13-18, N6KN dated Jan 14, 1918.)

Cap ribbons with ships' names were again authorized for wear by General Order No. 515 of 15 January 1920. At this time, personnel ashore apparently continued to wear the cap ribbons with "U.S. Navy" inscribed thereon.

[L11-VELASCO]

On 8/11/2020 at 10:31 PM, DocCollector1441 said:

BuNav CL NO. 13-18 published on 14 January 1918 on the subject of cap ribbons is quoted below:

"New cap ribbons of the following designations: 'U.S. NAVY' and 'U.S. NAVAL RESERVE' have been adopted. All men serving on regular Naval vessels including those in the Fleet, Train, and Transport Force, and at regular shore stations should wear ribbons giving the name of the ship or station, as at present.

"All men serving on shore in foreign service, and on board special War Department ships or other small ships taken over temporarily, shall wear 'U.S. Navy' ribbons.

"All reservists doing duty on shore in the various Naval Districts and on small craft in the districts should wear the 'U.S. Naval Reserve' ribbons. Men under instructions in special schools established for this present emergency or at rifle ranges shall wear 'U.S. Navy' or 'U.S. Naval Reserve' ribbons according to their status.

"The 'U.S. Naval Reserve Force' ribbons may be worn until the present supply is exhausted. Men doing armed guard duty will continue to wear the special ribbons already assigned to them."

BuNav CL NO. 179-18 published on 30 September 1918 prescribed that the cap ribbons bear the legend "U.S. Navy." It is quoted below:

"The instructions contained in reference (a) are here by rescinded, and hereafter cap ribbons bearing the legend 'U.S. Navy' shall be worn by all enlisted personnel of the Navy and Naval Reserve Force - this to take effect when the supply of ribbons, as at present authorized is exhausted." (Ref: (a) BuNav. Circular Letter No. 13-18, N6KN dated Jan 14, 1918.)

Cap ribbons with ships' names were again authorized for wear by General Order No. 515 of 15 January 1920. At this time, personnel ashore apparently continued to wear the cap ribbons with "U.S. Navy" inscribed thereon.

What have we here same man was a sailor and a US Marine or was his father? 

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