Bob Hudson Posted July 30, 2020 Share #1 Posted July 30, 2020 A local collector brought these by to show me today. I wish I'd taken more photos but I hope the ones I did take have some clues about their origin: in Richmond in 1862, or in a 20th century workshop. This one has has some engraving on the blade and CS on the guard. The blade is 33 inches long. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Hudson Posted July 30, 2020 Author Share #2 Posted July 30, 2020 This is the plainer of the two, with a 32.5 inch blade Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lsparks Posted July 30, 2020 Share #3 Posted July 30, 2020 Following for science. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Hudson Posted July 30, 2020 Author Share #4 Posted July 30, 2020 20 minutes ago, Lsparks said: Following for science. They blinded me with science. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spathologist Posted July 30, 2020 Share #5 Posted July 30, 2020 The lettering on the company mark looks individually stamped. Arizona Swords has a couple of examples of fakes with that type of lettering on their website. http://azswords.com/Fakes.htm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lsparks Posted July 30, 2020 Share #6 Posted July 30, 2020 They blinded me with science.Better get your shades on. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Hudson Posted July 30, 2020 Author Share #7 Posted July 30, 2020 14 minutes ago, Varangian said: The lettering on the company mark looks individually stamped. Arizona Swords has a couple of examples of fakes with that type of lettering on their website. http://azswords.com/Fakes.htm That cinches it: fakes/replicas - although they are not copies of the actual swords as far as I can tell. Whomever made them did a lot work to artificially age them. But, when you see two side-by-side, the aging looks very similar and i would not expect two actual 1862 swords to age the same unless they have been together since the war. When I looked at these this morning I told the owner that he either had a couple of well-done fakes, or something worth much more than he paid for them. As is, they are worth far less than he paid for them. I looked through worthpoint.com to track completed auctions of Boyle & Gamble swords for the last 10 years or so and some have sold for as much as $400 even when listed as a repro or fake. At the low end they've sold for $120. I found a couple places on line where it said these were done by House of Swords and Militaria. Anyone have any experience with them back in the day? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spathologist Posted July 31, 2020 Share #8 Posted July 31, 2020 Albaugh's books are still pretty cheap, or were last I looked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SARGE Posted August 1, 2020 Share #9 Posted August 1, 2020 House of Swords and Militaria were well known fakers who sold good and bad items. Look them up in a search or search for Joe Walters and that will give you all the information you need to know. BTW, the markings on these two swords are all wrong indicating they are fakes made to deceive IMHO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Hudson Posted August 1, 2020 Author Share #10 Posted August 1, 2020 2 hours ago, SARGE said: BTW, the markings on these two swords are all wrong indicating they are fakes made to deceive IMHO. I did find plenty online showing those are the wrong marks, but I'm no sure what the real B&G marks look like. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponyradish Posted August 1, 2020 Share #11 Posted August 1, 2020 That is not an authentic confederate sword. Red flags ahoy. Pony. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spathologist Posted August 1, 2020 Share #12 Posted August 1, 2020 1 hour ago, Bob Hudson said: I did find plenty online showing those are the wrong marks, but I'm no sure what the real B&G marks look like. I can't remember ever seeing one marked, other than those with Boyle, Gamble, & McFee cast in the guard. This guy might offer some insight: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Create an account or sign in to comment
You need to be a member in order to leave a comment
Create an account
Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!
Register a new accountSign in
Already have an account? Sign in here.
Sign In Now