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Howdy from Texas,

 

I've recently acquired an M-1 helmet with hand painted 36th infantry division insignia on both sides.

This is a rear seam post WWII helmet possibly Korea era, but I know that the 36th infantry division was used as a State Guard post WWII. 

I'd like your opinions on its authenticity as I mainly collect WWII German helmets.  

 

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I don't like it at all. a total hump job. cotton webbing in the liner with a nam era pot with black painted hardwear.

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I thiiink the shell is November 1944- August 1945 McCord production but I'm not certain on that. The shell chinstraps were made between 1962-1964. The liner was made between 1954 and 1964, the sweatband looks like a Steinberg Bros which would make it 1971-????

 

As for the painted insignia, I'm not experienced with telling fakes but it looks fine to me, and most people who would fake a helmet would fake a WWII helmet, not post-war, as that's where the money is.

Nice helmet. 

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@ArchangeIDM The paint is coming out brighter after I put the images through adobe Lightroom. 

The second to the last image is the closest I can get to the natural color. 

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Hi Pat 

in the first few pics the paint actually looks wet, makes sense now as you are using adobe light room.  
That last pic looks good 👍🏻 Without the light right on it 

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Wow! I am on my phone now and I see what you mean, the blue is absolutely glowing! It looked completely different on my old computer monitor

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The style is correct for the “thin” T Patch helmet, but the color and lateness of the production makes me think if it is legit, it is likely some sort of NG piece. Like the others said everything but the shell is pretty whack. Here is a photo of the color on an original T Patch helmet owned by another collector. Yours looks to be a brighter blue even in your last non-adobe photo which was more common after the war.

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GEN. David R. Atchinson- MO State Guard              ACW

PVT. John H. Drury- Co. A, 27th Ky IR                      ACW               Died of Typhoid

PVT. Henry E. Thomas- Co. I, 17th Ky IR                  ACW

PVT. Joseph E. Drury- Co. E, 356th IR, 89th ID       WWI                WIA

SGT. Edward P. Drury- 51st QM Training Co.           WWII

PFC. Delmer C. Koonter- Co. I, 142nd IR, 36th ID    WWII              WIA

SC3c Michael C. Drury- LCS (L) (3) 70                     WWII

SGT. Steven D. Koonter- 5th Cav, 1st Cav Div         Vietnam

SGT. John M. Drury- 227th AVN Bn. 1st Cav Div     Vietnam

 

Contact me with items from the 36th Infantry Division or any IDd uniforms of European Theater Infantry Divisions

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While not an exact shade match, yours tends to make me think of the tealish blue that became popular with the postwar NG. Considering it retained close to the original style, if its not just a repaint someone tried to pass off for sale, it was probably a late 40s or early 50s helmet.

GEN. David R. Atchinson- MO State Guard              ACW

PVT. John H. Drury- Co. A, 27th Ky IR                      ACW               Died of Typhoid

PVT. Henry E. Thomas- Co. I, 17th Ky IR                  ACW

PVT. Joseph E. Drury- Co. E, 356th IR, 89th ID       WWI                WIA

SGT. Edward P. Drury- 51st QM Training Co.           WWII

PFC. Delmer C. Koonter- Co. I, 142nd IR, 36th ID    WWII              WIA

SC3c Michael C. Drury- LCS (L) (3) 70                     WWII

SGT. Steven D. Koonter- 5th Cav, 1st Cav Div         Vietnam

SGT. John M. Drury- 227th AVN Bn. 1st Cav Div     Vietnam

 

Contact me with items from the 36th Infantry Division or any IDd uniforms of European Theater Infantry Divisions

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Very possible this could also be a reenactor piece.

GEN. David R. Atchinson- MO State Guard              ACW

PVT. John H. Drury- Co. A, 27th Ky IR                      ACW               Died of Typhoid

PVT. Henry E. Thomas- Co. I, 17th Ky IR                  ACW

PVT. Joseph E. Drury- Co. E, 356th IR, 89th ID       WWI                WIA

SGT. Edward P. Drury- 51st QM Training Co.           WWII

PFC. Delmer C. Koonter- Co. I, 142nd IR, 36th ID    WWII              WIA

SC3c Michael C. Drury- LCS (L) (3) 70                     WWII

SGT. Steven D. Koonter- 5th Cav, 1st Cav Div         Vietnam

SGT. John M. Drury- 227th AVN Bn. 1st Cav Div     Vietnam

 

Contact me with items from the 36th Infantry Division or any IDd uniforms of European Theater Infantry Divisions

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On 7/27/2020 at 3:15 PM, 36thIDAlex said:

Very possible this could also be a reenactor piece.

This helmet reminds me very much of the Camp Mabry 36th ID reenactors back in the 80's or early 90's. 

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