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Combat used ETO Lt M1 Helmet with leadership stripe and liner


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Is there wear to the inside of the helmet where whatever was attached to the liner rubbed against ?
Looks like a screw on branch brass might have been there due to the viable rubbing.


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Dean
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49 minutes ago, kammo-man said:


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Yes Owen I do 

was not with the helmet 

 

there Are Marks inside, but also due to the leather chin strap flat buckle it has created a 3mm gap between helmet and liner which has created the gap where the insignia would sit comfortably. 
Also rubbing down of the actual flat buckle is consistent with the inside of the helmet
 

 

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28 minutes ago, ArchangelDM said:


Yes Owen I do 

was not with the helmet 

 

there Are Marks inside, but also due to the leather chin strap flat buckle it has created a 3mm gap between helmet and liner which has created the gap where the insignia would sit comfortably. 
Also rubbing down of the actual flat buckle is consistent with the inside of the helmet
 

 

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Also the rubbing of the buckle on the liner shows it’s always been there, plus the fact the leather has formed itself to the liner and could not be removed without breaking it should further more show the helmet and liner being original too each other IMHO 

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31 minutes ago, jmd62 said:

Great photos and additional information Dean, thanks!


no problem Jmd62 

 

adds to all the detective work 

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Sometimes there is a grid shadow on the od exterior paint from the net being on for 80 years
Is that present ?


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5 minutes ago, kammo-man said:

Sometimes there is a grid shadow on the od exterior paint from the net being on for 80 years
Is that present ?


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You can see the shadowing of every knot and piece of netting. 
 

The helmet has mud on it still , making the squares where the net has sat all these years 

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Another shot of the net hanging on showing how stuck it is to the helmet and how long it’s been there. 
 

On the broken open pieces you can see where the surface is cleaner due to weather and wear as it has no net to protect it and hold onto its dirt. 

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Have you ever seen a helmet missing the net that has the grid literally bleached into the paint ?
Not mid but the sun fade effect


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7 minutes ago, kammo-man said:

Have you ever seen a helmet missing the net that has the grid literally bleached into the paint ?
Not mid but the sun fade effect


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If you look at it that’s actually a rust imprint on the missing space 

 

 

But mud, dust, storage wear, a ton of times. Sold a netted helmet here 6 years ago with the same 

net that had collected a ton of dust over its years in storage, also grime from the garage where it was stored. 
it’s imprint was on the metal 
 

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38 minutes ago, kammo-man said:

Have you ever seen a helmet missing the net that has the grid literally bleached into the paint ?
Not mid but the sun fade effect


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sorry I misunderstood the post, And misread it. 

 

ive seen helmets that still have the ghosting/shadowing of once having had a net, but the net gone. 
 

I would think these would have never been cleaned since being brought back. 
 

 

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16 minutes ago, kammo-man said:

If that’s there then it’s a sign


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Thanks O 

yes the ghosting is there of the net as shown 

 

 

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One good looking kid all round!


You just might get the Europe sickness!

Owen


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I have a very salty M1 that once had a shrimp net on it; there is a visible grid imprinted all over and on the inside (mostly rust). Can post for reference if needed.

 

Pat

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7 hours ago, Burning Hazard said:

I have a very salty M1 that once had a shrimp net on it; there is a visible grid imprinted all over and on the inside (mostly rust). Can post for reference if needed.

 

Pat


please do Pat 

 

thanks 

Dean 

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9 hours ago, kammo-man said:

One good looking kid all round!


You just might get the Europe sickness!

Owen


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Thankyou Owen

 

I’m Really Starting to appreciate these ETO sets a lot more now. 

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Here is my helmet, it once had a shrimp net since there are grid marks on the inside and outside. I don't have the helmet on me but this weekend will take some more detailed shots.

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