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Early WW2 Navy Fixed Loop with Hawley


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Greetings all. Here is a nice WW2 all original M1 Navy used Helmet.

It was sold as a Navy Helmet.

 

Its in good shape. The only other Hawley liner Ive held in my hands was a crumbling thin broken thing.

This one is there!. Its thick and not crushed or cracked or "Wilted" lol.

The name in pencil inside the liner is Ben Callahan 2nd Division.

Enjoy.

Rooster!

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Very nice, reminds me of my own early navy helmet. It has the same style of stenciling on the crown of the General Fibre liner. The shell is also stenciled but it is on the crown instead of on the front.

 

Shame that the name in the liner doesn't match the stencil. Could still be an interesting research project!

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The Rooster

Thank you Nick ! So for sure the stencil is initials ?

I though nmaybe it was a ships station?

Costa  JMD62...   Thank you !!!!

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Wow, not only is the Shell an early McCord in great shape, the liner is about the best i have ever seen! Very Nice. You Got treasure for sure there! 

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1 hour ago, rooster77 said:

Thank you Nick ! So for sure the stencil is initials ?

I though nmaybe it was a ships station?

Costa  JMD62...   Thank you !!!!

I think it's most likely initials, my helmet stenciled in the same manner corresponds with the first, middle, and last name. The vet also had his last name stenciled in the helmet under the brim.

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ArchangelDM

Beautiful 1st pattern hawley with a nice navy lid , not unusual for navy helmets and liners to change hands on ship etc. 
 

Great score Dave 

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We were still using these on my first ship in 1973. They were dropped in helmet racks on USS Kitty Hawk back then. Most were really beat up. Bales broken off, no straps and the liners broken around the edges.  

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On 7/21/2020 at 11:36 AM, sigsaye said:

We were still using these on my first ship in 1973. They were dropped in helmet racks on USS Kitty Hawk back then. Most were really beat up. Bales broken off, no straps and the liners broken around the edges.  

 

Thank you Sigseye and everyone. Its the nicest Lid I own.

1973.... Maybe 1972 ?? I was on the Oriskany which was docked at Alameda Naval Air Station.

It was just back from Vietnam. I think the Carrier Constellation was moored next to her. ?

Getting foggy as Iget up in years.

I recieved an honorary crew member badge. Im guessing this helmet got put up quickly

for some reason? Sigseye, is there any reason the crew would put up or retire a fairly new helmet?

It doesnt seem used much.

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2 hours ago, rooster77 said:

 

Thank you Sigseye and everyone. Its the nicest Lid I own.

1973.... Maybe 1972 ?? I was on the Oriskany which was docked at Alameda Naval Air Station.

It was just back from Vietnam. I think the Carrier Constellation was moored next to her. ?

Getting foggy as Iget up in years.

I recieved an honorary crew member badge. Im guessing this helmet got put up quickly

for some reason? Sigseye, is there any reason the crew would put up or retire a fairly new helmet?

It doesnt seem used much.

Helmets sit in warehouses for decades. Then get sent out to ships to replace those that are tossed over the side. I’ve seen tri walls of them dropped on the pier. 

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24 minutes ago, sigsaye said:

Helmets sit in warehouses for decades. Then get sent out to ships to replace those that are tossed over the side. I’ve seen tri walls of them dropped on the pier. 

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21 minutes ago, patches said:

Tossed Over The Side image.png.8280543ea52b6b2c4eb001ca86980573.png

 

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Literally. Tossed a few over the years 

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27 minutes ago, sigsaye said:

Literally. Tossed a few over the years 

Was this in the harbor, you know in port, or on the high seas?

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5 minutes ago, patches said:

Was this in the harbor, you know in port, or on the high seas?

Always at sea. Helmets get beat up. Stuff falls on them. The rust horribly. We used them to prop stuff up, as paint buckets. No one liked them, so no one really cared about them. We mixed and matched parts to make one good one and tosssd the rest over the side. 

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7 hours ago, patches said:

Was this in the harbor, you know in port, or on the high seas?

planning a diving operation?

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Just to be clear, we did not toss stuff over the side in port. Something might fall over the side occasionally. One night on the Mid-Watch in San Diego, I was instructing a new guy on field stripping the 1911. It was part of the Qualification for Petty Officer of the watch. Anyway, he was breaking the weapon down and his finger slipped off the barrel bushing. The bushing and operating spring went flying out into the bay. Rather embarrassing. And, of course, the Duty Gunners Mate was not pleased about having to get up at 0200, to get a new pistol for the Quarter Deck. And, the next morning, I and the Non-Qual, had a pile of paperwork to fill out explaining the loss. 

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Burning Hazard

I read how the Navy/USMC tossed entire crates of captured Japanese weapons and samurai swords into Tokyo Bay after Japan surrendered; might still be there today.

 

Pat

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13 minutes ago, sigsaye said:

Huge glob of rusted crap.  

Ha! You're probably right :D Maybe a good crab or two in there for lunch..

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