Garandy Posted July 9, 2020 Share #1 Posted July 9, 2020 Just picked up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
917601 Posted July 9, 2020 Share #2 Posted July 9, 2020 Hang onto it, the Marines are disbanding their tank battalions and ditching the M1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
917601 Posted July 9, 2020 Share #3 Posted July 9, 2020 ...and axing a whole lot more: https://www.marinecorpstimes.com/news/your-marine-corps/2020/03/23/the-corps-is-axing-all-of-its-tank-battalions-and-cutting-grunt-units/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
917601 Posted July 9, 2020 Share #4 Posted July 9, 2020 What you have is the stub case of either the heat or dart round. Most do not know the " case" itself is consumed when firing, and the piece you have is the only piece left after firing. I happen to have a very hard to find M831 complete heat round and container. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
917601 Posted July 9, 2020 Share #5 Posted July 9, 2020 Further analysis shows you have the stub case for the dart round, M829 Silver Bullet ( or earlier model). The primer tube is much longer on the dart round compared to the heat round. Ashame all the ink markings have been scrubbed from the head case. I will post more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garandy Posted July 9, 2020 Author Share #6 Posted July 9, 2020 Well it was a presentation piece I think Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
917601 Posted July 10, 2020 Share #7 Posted July 10, 2020 Of course, nice piece of history,,,,,,in another year USMC tanks will be a thing of the past and future Marines will wonder what it is. For interest, the inking on my headcase stub HEAT round. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garandy Posted July 10, 2020 Author Share #8 Posted July 10, 2020 I like it like modern trench art Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
917601 Posted July 10, 2020 Share #9 Posted July 10, 2020 I will add it appears to me your stub case is July (G) 2004 manufacture. As for the news, it appears the USMC is on the road to becoming just a US Navy minor support group with no teethe. Gutted. What next? Disband the 82nd Airborne?...when that happens, ( I am ex 82nd- rumor mill around division for years- disbanding/ downsizing) and I suspect it may just happen- the destruction of our Military will be complete. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garandy Posted July 10, 2020 Author Share #10 Posted July 10, 2020 Absolutely ridiculous and I have 2 sons who are former Marines. One was a radio operator for an artillery battery and the other a grunt. He got close to Abrams tanks and I don’t like the thought of no armor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garandy Posted July 10, 2020 Author Share #11 Posted July 10, 2020 2004 maybe used in Iraq? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
917601 Posted July 10, 2020 Share #12 Posted July 10, 2020 22 minutes ago, Garandy said: 2004 maybe used in Iraq? Probably not. Most likely a CONUS range pick up. Troops coming home from the ME are patted down / inspected heavily. However, the stub cases and one penetrator dart I aquired was from a retired Colonel tanker, who had the balls to drive down range in Graffenburg ( ?) Germany and pick up a few that were not bent....that was back in the early 90's., he sold them to me a few years ago. Notice it has a German ID, " DM" number- in the early days of the 120mm, the US bought and used the German issued ( they developed the gun and ammo) until we could buy the rights and manufacture our own. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
917601 Posted July 10, 2020 Share #13 Posted July 10, 2020 A further note, the primer tube was manufactured in 2004, it could have been years before being installed into the stub case, without the ink markings present, ( inking gives the date the round was assembled), you have no idea when it was fired. Yours was obviously pulled from a crate full ( they gather them up and sell to scrap yards by the ton) and engraved for the " event". You need to get the " Silver Bullet" matching dart, they can still be found at surplus stores, now running about 200-300 bucks last I checked., getting harder to find but doable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garandy Posted July 10, 2020 Author Share #14 Posted July 10, 2020 I’ve never seen one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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