B24AT6 Posted July 6, 2020 Share #1 Posted July 6, 2020 For quite some time I, like probably most of you, have used a jewelers loupe to inspect painted helmets. Now I’m sure there are some of you that have already caught on to this, but I just recently purchased a USB/WiFi microscope from Amazon and have found it to be an incredible tool for judging helmets. Obviously my first thing once I had the microscope out of the box was to inspect a few helmets I already own, and one of the first was one that I felt was good but it presented some questions. After looking at it with this microscope I have no doubts about the helmet, and have found my new favorite tool for inspecting helmets. An added bonus is that because it connects directly to your phone or computer it will work at home or out on the hunt, and let’s you take photos and videos directly so you can upload them to the forum if you wish. I have included photos of the microscope, the helmet, and a sample of what the microscope can do. If you’re interested here is the Amazon link, and it’s currently on sale: https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B07PVMRZQH?ref=ppx_pt2_mob_b_prod_image Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T Ambrosini Posted July 6, 2020 Share #2 Posted July 6, 2020 That's a pretty cool little gadget! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmd62 Posted July 6, 2020 Share #3 Posted July 6, 2020 Very cool, thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cap Camouflage Pattern I Posted July 6, 2020 Share #4 Posted July 6, 2020 Wow! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Okie96 Posted July 7, 2020 Share #5 Posted July 7, 2020 Just ordered the frequently bought together package. Thanks for sharing this! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bugme Posted July 12, 2020 Share #6 Posted July 12, 2020 Admin Warning: I cleaned up this mess now, let's get back to the discussion and end the foolish talk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kammo-man Posted July 12, 2020 Share #7 Posted July 12, 2020 Wow Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john k Posted July 12, 2020 Share #8 Posted July 12, 2020 Pretty handy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kammo-man Posted July 12, 2020 Share #9 Posted July 12, 2020 There was no mess only a super sensitive opWho was easily offended and made a stink and went crying to the moderators about a post I did showing the first guy on the forums to use a microscope Outing Major Militaria dealers selling Fake Militaria form WW2.He talks like a sailor.Sailors are salty.You can delete this if you want Bugme but I tell you what.Censorship is what hinders learning.Go ahead and aid members from learning about the dark side of this hobby Owen Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brig Posted July 12, 2020 Share #10 Posted July 12, 2020 These microscopes aren't just good for helmet collectors...but militaria collectors of all types. They're handy for seeing tool marks on the edges of badges, and have been particularly useful in studying characteristics of enamel badges. I've had one of these for six months, and Dirk has had one for awhile, as well. These things are the future of debunking fakes in the hobby Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B24AT6 Posted July 12, 2020 Author Share #11 Posted July 12, 2020 1 minute ago, Brig said: These microscopes aren't just good for helmet collectors...but militaria collectors of all types. They're handy for seeing tool marks on the edges of badges, and have been particularly useful in studying characteristics of enamel badges. I've had one of these for six months, and Dirk has had one for awhile, as well. These things are the future of debunking fakes in the hobby I had not even thought about that, but I can definitely see how it would be useful for badges and enamel work! I have looked at some medal engraving and thought that would be another good use for one of these. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brig Posted July 12, 2020 Share #12 Posted July 12, 2020 2 minutes ago, B24AT6 said: I had not even thought about that, but I can definitely see how it would be useful for badges and enamel work! I have looked at some medal engraving and thought that would be another good use for one of these. They would be useful for engraving, as well, I would agree These have been used with great success on transparent and translucent enamels to debunk older fakes. Notably, the Hitler Youth Distinguished Foreigner badges and the French/Norwegian Administrative badges. Both have largely been held to be original and needless to say it is causing quite the fury with some of the old hands who spent thousands on their pieces decades ago, much like the debunking of the Champagne runes did. These penetrate through such enamels and allow one to really see the composite of them, as well as the metal work beneath. However, they don't do much good with opaque enamels but do show the metal edges surrounding them, such as with Norwegian NS badges and China Marine diamonds Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B24AT6 Posted July 12, 2020 Author Share #13 Posted July 12, 2020 2 minutes ago, Brig said: They would be useful for engraving, as well, I would agree These have been used with great success on transparent and translucent enamels to debunk older fakes. Notably, the Hitler Youth Distinguished Foreigner badges and the French/Norwegian Administrative badges. Both have largely been held to be original and needless to say it is causing quite the fury with some of the old hands who spent thousands on their pieces decades ago, much like the debunking of the Champagne runes did. These penetrate through such enamels and allow one to really see the composite of them, as well as the metal work beneath. However, they don't do much good with opaque enamels but do show the metal edges surrounding them, such as with Norwegian NS badges and China Marine diamonds Wow, I was familiar with the Champagne rune fakes, but I did not know there was a similar controversy brewing amongst badge collectors. Hopefully as these tools become more widespread we can make the job for fakers that much harder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kammo-man Posted July 12, 2020 Share #14 Posted July 12, 2020 And been censored againSent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kammo-man Posted July 12, 2020 Share #15 Posted July 12, 2020 They would be useful for engraving, as well, I would agree These have been used with great success on transparent and translucent enamels to debunk older fakes. Notably, the Hitler Youth Distinguished Foreigner badges and the French/Norwegian Administrative badges. Both have largely been held to be original and needless to say it is causing quite the fury with some of the old hands who spent thousands on their pieces decades ago, much like the debunking of the Champagne runes did. These penetrate through such enamels and allow one to really see the composite of them, as well as the metal work beneath. However, they don't do much good with opaque enamels but do show the metal edges surrounding them, such as with Norwegian NS badges and China Marine diamondsSo your a member of the Waf You know joes groundbreaking research Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kammo-man Posted July 12, 2020 Share #16 Posted July 12, 2020 Wow, I was familiar with the Champagne rune fakes, but I did not know there was a similar controversy brewing amongst badge collectors. Hopefully as these tools become more widespread we can make the job for fakers that much harder.You should research Joe rivittHe blew the whole thing open with his research that has been censored here on the usmf Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bugme Posted July 12, 2020 Share #17 Posted July 12, 2020 16 minutes ago, kammo-man said: You should research Joe rivitt He blew the whole thing open with his research that has been censored here on the usmf Not censored, your link was in poor taste and then you chose to take it downhill Owen, not me. Joe's work on revealing the Champagne Rune scam is well known and the subject of a pinned thread in the helmet section. You know your stuff and I bow to your expertise on camo but, playing nice goes a long way with me and you know that. Being rude goes no where with me, and you know that as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kammo-man Posted July 12, 2020 Share #18 Posted July 12, 2020 Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kammo-man Posted July 12, 2020 Share #19 Posted July 12, 2020 Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brig Posted July 12, 2020 Share #20 Posted July 12, 2020 46 minutes ago, kammo-man said: So your a member of the Waf You know joes groundbreaking research Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Jo has his own enamel militaria forum where he posts his research, and also frequents the HJ Research forum Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kammo-man Posted July 12, 2020 Share #21 Posted July 12, 2020 Not censored, your link was in poor taste and then you chose to take it downhill Owen, not me. Joe's work on revealing the Champagne Rune scam is well known and the subject of a pinned thread in the helmet section. You know your stuff and I bow to your expertise on camo but, playing nice goes a long way with me and you know that. Being rude goes no where with me, and you know that as well.For the record I did Not post a link to his pageI posted a screenshot of one of his posts.It’s up to a member on their own free will if they want to investigate that picture.Plain and simple Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bugme Posted July 12, 2020 Share #22 Posted July 12, 2020 1 minute ago, kammo-man said: For the record I did Not post a link to his page I posted a screenshot of one of his posts. It’s up to a member on their own free will if they want to investigate that picture. Plain and simple Fair enough Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kammo-man Posted July 12, 2020 Share #23 Posted July 12, 2020 Regarding the on gong worm hole Here’s a few revenant screen grabs from 5 years ago Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kammo-man Posted July 12, 2020 Share #24 Posted July 12, 2020 As Lord summerile once said ‘Shocks are best absorbed with the knees bent’Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArchangelDM Posted July 12, 2020 Share #25 Posted July 12, 2020 1 hour ago, kammo-man said: As Lord summerile once said ‘Shocks are best absorbed with the knees bent’ Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk 😂 exposure at its best ! Thanks for the posts O Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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