wer27 Posted July 3, 2020 Share #1 Posted July 3, 2020 Hi, I think it is the right place to ask for an opinion on this helmet with mimicry and insignia of the 551th, the wear is very real and true, but I know that there are many repro of this kind of helmet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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dmar836 Posted July 3, 2020 Share #8 Posted July 3, 2020 Any provenance? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Costa Posted July 3, 2020 Share #9 Posted July 3, 2020 when it comes to painted helmets, you have to step slowly. helmets are highly humped by bargain basement termites that have no feelings for any one. ask questions before you buy. liner looks good period ww2 (Westinghouse?). i'll take a guess on the pot--- and say its good. I am no expert but, it doesn't have that fake Rembrandt look that some joker made up. there is something else------------- that is a fixed bail pot not an M-2. there have been para glider troops that wore regular pots with jump liners. lets see other opinions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manayunkman Posted July 3, 2020 Share #10 Posted July 3, 2020 Costa i wondered about whether it should be an M2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wer27 Posted July 3, 2020 Author Share #11 Posted July 3, 2020 the helmet is an infantry model, the liner is a westinhouse, I am evaluating the cadco before a purchase Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Costa Posted July 3, 2020 Share #12 Posted July 3, 2020 27 minutes ago, manayunkman said: Costa i wondered about whether it should be an M2. I asked the same question but, realize that as the war went on fix bail pots were used in jumps due to shortages and as I stated glider troops wore fixed bales with para liners. several times when you see something that doesn't seem to be right-------------- it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Costa Posted July 3, 2020 Share #13 Posted July 3, 2020 12 minutes ago, wer27 said: the helmet is an infantry model, the liner is a westinhouse, I am evaluating the cadco before a purchase I like it--- it just doesn't have that made up hump look. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trenchfoot Posted July 5, 2020 Share #14 Posted July 5, 2020 I’m no expert on airborne helmets, but I like the paint wear on the shell. Lots of nicks and scratches that don’t look artificial or made by the same tool. The rust does not look artificial either. Just my 2 cents Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArchangelDM Posted July 5, 2020 Share #15 Posted July 5, 2020 PartS I like, parts I dislike. that white on the tree is awfully white, normally white turns a cream color with age. Even hardly used helmets that saw little use and then were stored correctly exhibit a dulling down Of the initial color. I find it hard to believe that the camo underneath has dulled and aged yet the white remains bright. - Dean Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArchangelDM Posted July 5, 2020 Share #16 Posted July 5, 2020 Also too add, the net was added to the helmet, then it was camo’d then the net was taken off again and the tree added. Pic 1 and 2 both clearly show where the net should be running through it but the tree is sitting on top. later addition ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill47 Posted July 5, 2020 Share #17 Posted July 5, 2020 Interesting helmet, but it has too many questions for me to feel right about it If it's a fake, it's a good one.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Persian Gulf Command Posted July 5, 2020 Share #18 Posted July 5, 2020 wer27, The liner appears to be a good Westinghouse Airborne Liner. when you look at the outside of the liner and the inside of the shell, is there a matching up of discoloration on the liner and the discoloration and rust of the inside of the shell? If these features match up this would move the possibility of opinion for this being a legit helmet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burning Hazard Posted July 5, 2020 Share #19 Posted July 5, 2020 This is a tough one and would need an in-hand inspection; a look at the white paint through a loupe would also be needed. At least the Westinghouse Jump liner is an original WWII production. In today's world, if any WWII airborne painted helmet does not come with provenance then it's best to be skeptical. Pat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArchangelDM Posted July 5, 2020 Share #20 Posted July 5, 2020 How much are they asking for it - another great indication. this would have to be in the thousands if original Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kammo-man Posted July 5, 2020 Share #21 Posted July 5, 2020 I really want this to be right but as Dean pointed out the palm tree sits differently than the rest.The lime green sure does have the right look to it thoughOwen Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOLO Posted July 5, 2020 Share #22 Posted July 5, 2020 👍 somebody could have tried to wipe the helmet making the white paint look cleaner than it should? 40 years ago people were not that concerned about the patina, maybe they did a light cleaning disturbing the old white paint. it looks pretty good to me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArchangelDM Posted July 5, 2020 Share #23 Posted July 5, 2020 2 minutes ago, BOLO said: somebody could have tried to wipe the helmet making the white paint look cleaner than it should? 40 years ago people were not that concerned about the patina, maybe they did a light cleaning disturbing the old white paint. That could be the case but I feel the palm trees would still have discoloration. White paint and 80 years of sitting and Some time spent being in theatre would show discoloration and cracking. Their is some of it I really like, But those palm trees are the elephant In the room for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1canpara Posted July 5, 2020 Share #24 Posted July 5, 2020 It does look somewhat convincing, my problem is with the palm trees, they look much larger than any I’ve seen in period photos and helmets in collections. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wer27 Posted July 6, 2020 Author Share #25 Posted July 6, 2020 If I can put I found a couple of photos of original helmets one is present on a book, the palm is made after the green-black mimicry, the size is the usual. My doubt remains on the type of green color less lime than the others and with a denser layer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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