ArchangelDM Posted July 2, 2020 Share #1 Posted July 2, 2020 I was reading on a thread about the new breed of replica Westinghouse Camo liner replicas Coming on the market, Owen (Kammo man) had mentioned them early on but I had yet to see one. Until earlier this morning on eBay ! These have to be the scariest thing I’ve seen in a while, add a little wear to it and it’s extremely dangerous territory. Why they aren’t marked replica is beyond me , I would advise all USMC collectors to have a good look at these. ebay number : 203037283097 - Dean Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cap Camouflage Pattern I Posted July 2, 2020 Share #2 Posted July 2, 2020 Thanks for the heads up. I can guess why they arent marked Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArchangelDM Posted July 2, 2020 Author Share #3 Posted July 2, 2020 4 minutes ago, Cap Camouflage Pattern I said: Thanks for the heads up. I can guess why they arent marked no problem Cap, im sure these will be turning up with wear very soon and then of course sold as originals. buyers beware Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Persian Gulf Command Posted July 2, 2020 Share #4 Posted July 2, 2020 I saw this as well in the "wee hours" of this morning. I almost jumped and pressed the BIN option. The only indicator is the shape of the templates used to apply the camo spray. otherwise the colors are very accurate and yes meant to deceive. All be it that the description states its a mimic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manayunkman Posted July 2, 2020 Share #5 Posted July 2, 2020 Isn’t the combined Capac Westinghouse maker mark post war? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allan H. Posted July 2, 2020 Share #6 Posted July 2, 2020 6 minutes ago, manayunkman said: Isn’t the combined Capac Westinghouse maker mark post war? Yes! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manayunkman Posted July 2, 2020 Share #7 Posted July 2, 2020 Is the webbing original? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArchangelDM Posted July 2, 2020 Author Share #8 Posted July 2, 2020 39 minutes ago, manayunkman said: Isn’t the combined Capac Westinghouse maker mark post war? Correct Surely a cheaper buy for the artist ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manayunkman Posted July 2, 2020 Share #9 Posted July 2, 2020 Is the seller advertising it as original? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArchangelDM Posted July 2, 2020 Author Share #10 Posted July 2, 2020 5 minutes ago, manayunkman said: Is the seller advertising it as original? no as a replica, unfortunately as stated earlier some unscrupulous sellers I’m sure will add a little wear and will start to sell as originals. Also just to clarify, I feel the liners should be marked inside “Replica” as to help future buyers just keeping ahead of the curve Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grant G. Posted July 2, 2020 Share #11 Posted July 2, 2020 Fear not. The original liners' camouflage template consists of two green tones and one rust-brown tone, applied over the liner's standard olive drab paint via a stencil. These reproductions have three green tones, not to mention the shapes are different. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manayunkman Posted July 2, 2020 Share #12 Posted July 2, 2020 And a novice should be able to see it’s the wrong liner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArchangelDM Posted July 2, 2020 Author Share #13 Posted July 2, 2020 45 minutes ago, manayunkman said: And a novice should be able to see it’s the wrong liner. I think the new collectors would struggle if they did not have originals to hand. I can see the differences as pointed out but they are slight and the untrained eye might not see them 1. my original H/S company Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArchangelDM Posted July 2, 2020 Author Share #14 Posted July 2, 2020 2. The new replicas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Hudson Posted July 2, 2020 Share #15 Posted July 2, 2020 I'm not familiar with what they are copying, but the replica just looks cheap to me, like a toy helmet paint job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aef1917 Posted July 2, 2020 Share #16 Posted July 2, 2020 Seems to me that using an obviously post-WWII liner is just as effective as putting "replica" somewhere inside. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArchangelDM Posted July 2, 2020 Author Share #17 Posted July 2, 2020 3 minutes ago, aef1917 said: Seems to me that using an obviously post-WWII liner is just as effective as putting "replica" somewhere inside. knowledge is power information is key ! let’s hope that the new collectors out that get to this page. Also we all know what’s wrong with it - the page and thread is for people that might not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manayunkman Posted July 2, 2020 Share #18 Posted July 2, 2020 What is the liner like? It looks fake to me. If they start using the right liner and ditch the 3rd green color we might be in trouble. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Costa Posted July 2, 2020 Share #19 Posted July 2, 2020 there is just no end to this crap is there? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manayunkman Posted July 2, 2020 Share #20 Posted July 2, 2020 1 hour ago, Bob Hudson said: I'm not familiar with what they are copying, but the replica just looks cheap to me, like a toy helmet paint job. You’re right about the way it looks. Could be the bad picture is distorting it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArchangelDM Posted July 2, 2020 Author Share #21 Posted July 2, 2020 7 minutes ago, manayunkman said: You’re right about the way it looks. Could be the bad picture is distorting it. Yeah picture is not the greatest and it’s also been resized for here. I’ll try and add the full link - looks a lot better on eBay Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Costa Posted July 2, 2020 Share #22 Posted July 2, 2020 here is a real camo Westinghouse. well used------------------ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bugme Posted July 2, 2020 Share #23 Posted July 2, 2020 5 hours ago, ArchangelDM said: ...Also we all know what’s wrong with it - the page and thread is for people that might not. Honestly Dean, you did not say that this was for the inexperienced collector or those who might not know. It is informational for all of us and AEF1917 was just pointing out why there was no reason for it being marked "reproduction" since the double stamp is an obvious post war production thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.Jerry Posted July 3, 2020 Share #24 Posted July 3, 2020 This is more of question about the real ones- did Marines get them? Every photo I have seen of them in use was an Army unit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpstout Posted July 3, 2020 Share #25 Posted July 3, 2020 3 hours ago, Mr.Jerry said: This is more of question about the real ones- did Marines get them? Every photo I have seen of them in use was an Army unit. Jerry, yes, from Generals to Grunts😎 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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