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Hi, all.

 

It's been ages, since I've posted, so I thought I'd share my current interest: Vietnam War-era Army uniforms.

 

First up, is a 1972-date blouse to a Staff Sergeant who served in Vietnam with the 1st Cavalry Division (Airmobile), then later with the 25th Infantry Division. Judging by the date, he served with the 25th after its return to Schofield Barracks, rather than on a second combat tour. The lining shows evidence of two rows of three ribbons, but no badges (CIB, CMB, Air Crew, etc.).

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Jeff C.

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Next, a Specialist 4th Class who served with the 196th Light Infantry Brigade in Vietnam, and later with the 4th Infantry Division. Unfortunately, like the above uniform, it isn't named. It's also missing the Infantry shoulder cord and a unit award.

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Jeff C.

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This one is named, and belonged to a Specialist 5th Class who served with the 3/82nd Artillery, 196th Light Infantry Brigade. The ribbons are Vietnamese-made. Interestingly, he wears an Air Defense Artillery collar disc. The repair tag was found in one of the pockets, so I do have an ID on this one: SP5 K*O*S*T*A*N*I*C*H.

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Jeff C.

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Next, SP4 Smith. The uniform is about as complete as it can get. One of the pins had fallen off the name tag, so I had to glue it back on. I'm not sure why it has 1st Cavalry Regiment DUIs. I haven't found anything on any battalion of the 1st Cav Regiment ever being assigned to the 1st Cavalry Division. Still, this one has everything: DUIs, Sterling CIB, unit awards, Air Medal and ARCOM ribbons, etc.

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Finally, I saved the best for last. This one is ID'd, thanks to the seller providing his name, but I won't post it here as I believe he is still alive and wish to protect his privacy. The veteran served in Vietnam with the 8th Army Security Agency Field Station (a.k.a. the 8th Radio Research Field Station) from 1972 to 1973. After his tour in Vietnam, he was then assigned to the Berlin Brigade. Unfortunately, I am missing his Vietnam Service medal and RVN Campaign Medal. This is definitely one of the most interesting uniforms I've owned due to the secret nature of ASA operations during the Cold War.

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Jeff C.

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For a time, the Branch of Service insignia for all Artillery was the crossed cannon with missile. There was a single Artillery Branch, no Field, no Air Defense, just Artillery. It split around 1974, I think. Units had designations that described their particular weapons, i.e. 8th Battalion, 1st Artillery (Nike Hercules) or 3d Battalion, 9th Artillery (8" Howitzer). In 1970, I was assigned to the 30th Artillery Brigade (Air Defense). After the split, it became 30th Air Defense Artillery Brigade.

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7 minutes ago, atb said:

For a time, the Branch of Service insignia for all Artillery was the crossed cannon with missile. There was a single Artillery Branch, no Field, no Air Defense, just Artillery. It split around 1974, I think. Units had designations that described their particular weapons, i.e. 8th Battalion, 1st Artillery (Nike Hercules) or 3d Battalion, 9th Artillery (8" Howitzer). In 1970, I was assigned to the 30th Artillery Brigade (Air Defense). After the split, it became 30th Air Defense Artillery Brigade.

Thanks for the information! I had no idea about that. 


Jeff C.

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In regard to your Cav coat with the 1st Cav DIs on it, it will date from 1971-74 and will be for the 3rd Squadron 1st Cavalry which was a part of the 1st Cavalry Division at Fort Hood Texas, it was inherited from the 1st Armored Division. When most of the Flags and Colors left Vietnam in 1971 (Some elemts of the Cav remained in action in Vietnam past 1971), 1st Armored Division reflagged as the 1st Cavalry Division at Fort Hood, Texas. 4th Armored Division reflagged as the 1st Armored Division in West Germany. 4th Armored Division inactivated. It was a new concept trialed by the Cav, it was called Triple Capacity, or TRICAP. Armor/Mech Inf, Air Cav and Airmobile Inf.

 

http://www.first-team.us/tableaux/chapt_09/

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Here’s my only Vietnam Era uniform in the collection. Nice set of class A’s to a member of the 176th Aviation Co assigned to the 23rd ID and his South Korean Marine Corps camo shirt. 

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Looking for any WWII 104th "Timberwolf" Division items.

Including items from the 413th, 414th, and 415th Infantry Regiments 104th Recon Troop, 329th Engineer Battalion, 329th Medical Battalion

385th, 386th, 387th, and 929th Field Artillery Battalions 804th Ordnance Company 104th Quartermaster Company 104th Signal Company

555th Anti-Aircraft Battalion, 750th Tank Battalion 692nd Tank Destroyer Battalion 817th Tank Destroyer Battalion

 

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9 hours ago, atb said:

For a time, the Branch of Service insignia for all Artillery was the crossed cannon with missile. There was a single Artillery Branch, no Field, no Air Defense, just Artillery. It split around 1974, I think. Units had designations that described their particular weapons, i.e. 8th Battalion, 1st Artillery (Nike Hercules) or 3d Battalion, 9th Artillery (8" Howitzer). In 1970, I was assigned to the 30th Artillery Brigade (Air Defense). After the split, it became 30th Air Defense Artillery Brigade.

 

From TIOH -  in part (emphasis added)

 

" It was superseded in 1957 by the consolidated Artillery insignia consisting of the crossed field guns surmounted by a missile. In 1968 when the Air Defense Artillery and the Field Artillery were authorized to have separate insignia, the former Field Artillery insignia was reinstated."

 

https://tioh.army.mil/Catalog/Heraldry.aspx?HeraldryId=15342&CategoryId=9362&grp=2&menu=Uniformed Services&ps=24&p=0

 

Larry

 

 


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Thanks US82Bravo. Wow, I was off by a bit. I went and looked it up and refreshed my memory. The ADA became a branch in 1968 and continued to wear the crossed cannon with missile while FA branch readopted the crossed cannon insignia. From 1957 to 1968 was the time period when the crossed cannon and missile was the Artillery Branch insignia.

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On 6/5/2020 at 8:28 PM, patches said:

In regard to your Cav coat with the 1st Cav DIs on it, it will date from 1971-74 and will be for the 3rd Squadron 1st Cavalry which was a part of the 1st Cavalry Division at Fort Hood Texas, it was inherited from the 1st Armored Division. When most of the Flags and Colors left Vietnam in 1971 (Some elemts of the Cav remained in action in Vietnam past 1971), 1st Armored Division reflagged as the 1st Cavalry Division at Fort Hood, Texas. 4th Armored Division reflagged as the 1st Armored Division in West Germany. 4th Armored Division inactivated. It was a new concept trialed by the Cav, it was called Triple Capacity, or TRICAP. Armor/Mech Inf, Air Cav and Airmobile Inf.

 

http://www.first-team.us/tableaux/chapt_09/

Awesome! Mystery solved. Thank you!


Jeff C.

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Thanks for the info on the ADA insignia, guys. This will be great for future reference!


Jeff C.

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On 6/5/2020 at 10:00 PM, Timberwolf said:

Here’s my only Vietnam Era uniform in the collection. Nice set of class A’s to a member of the 176th Aviation Co assigned to the 23rd ID and his South Korean Marine Corps camo shirt. 

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Awesome grouping! Love the pocket patch and the ROK camo. Thanks for sharing!


Jeff C.

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