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WWII US enlisted man's winter service uniform jacket?

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I think that's what I have here. Not an expert in US militaria (yet!) let alone textiles. I primarily focus on German and just now getting into M-1's so any advice is appreciated! Looks like a little bit of moth nips, nothing major. Sewn "Ruptured Duck" patch in the appropriate place. Left arm patch appears to be the insignia of the U.S. Army Pacific. "Was originally designed and approved for U.S. Army forces Pacific Ocean Areas on October 18, 1944. The stars of the insignia also recall a key date in the history of the U.S. Army and the U.S. Armed Forces in the Pacific. The total of 12 stars represents the month of December, the seven stars of the Big Dipper, the 7th day, and the four stars of the Southern Cross plus the North Star, the year '41: 12-7-41 - December 7, 1941, the date of the United States' entry into World War II" is what I found so far.

I recently acquired some medals and ribbon bars of an individual that served in the Paicfic Theater so it would be nice to attach them to this. As far as I know it's just the jacket, no pants. Person is asking $100 so I don't know what's fair for these in general and/or based on condition.

Also if anyone could educate me about the insignia on the left cuff that would be helpful.

Thanks for any advice!

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The OD diagonal strip indicates 3 years of Army Service.  You wear one stripe for every 3 years of service.  The gold bars are overseas service bars.  One bar represents 6 months of overseas service.  That person served overseas for 3 years.  

Is there any name or laundry number?  Those brass hooks on the jacket are for the leather garrison belt and indicate that is an early war issue jacket.  In one of the lower pockets there should be a QM tag with the date.

In my opinion,  $100s seem pretty high.


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8 minutes ago, Old Marine said:

The OD diagonal strip indicates 3 years of Army Service.  You wear one stripe for every 3 years of service.  The gold bars are overseas service bars.  One bar represents 6 months of overseas service.  That person served overseas for 3 years.  

Is there any name or laundry number?  Those brass hooks on the jacket are for the leather garrison belt and indicate that is an early war issue jacket.  In one of the lower pockets there should be a QM tag with the date.

In my opinion,  $100s seem pretty high.

Thanks for the information. What would you say is a fair price for both one is this condition and one that's more minty?

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I guess for both its ok. Others may have a better handle on current prices.  Is there a name or laundry number in the coats?  3 years in the Pacific is a long time.  If this coat belonged to a POW  that would increase the value of the coat.  


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I don’t usually see that many overseas bars on a jacket very often so that’s interesting but as far as $100, don’t think I could pay that much unless there was a way to research it from a name or Lainey number to tie it to metals. There are a lot of jackets out there that aren’t named for a lot less but if your set on this particular one or to this unit and you feel comfortable, go for it!


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Seller didn't think there were any names on it or anything. I can have them double check. They still haven't read my message about the QM tag either

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I'd say this would probably fetch $80-120 on eBay for one reason and its not related to any of the insignia of the jacket. But the size. 44R is a pretty big size for WW2 US jackets, and because there aren't really any good reproductions of US army dress uniforms, reenactors love to get the bigger jackets to use as modern humans are larger than 1940's humans. I recently saw an ike jacket and shirt size 44R go for something like $130 on eBay about a week ago.

If the size was 40 and below I'd say the jacket was worth $15-30. US jackets just aren't worth much without the complete insignia. Especially Non-divisional patched and non ETO or Marine combat units. 

The average collector would not spend $100 dollars on this jacket, but eBay is full of reenactors so it would probably sell high there is the size was properly displayed. I'm curious where online, if this is listed online, this is listed. Not sure if the seller is aware of the value of the jacket. 

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This is on a Facebook militaria exchange group I am a member of. The owner didn't know any of the specifics besides the research I did for her. Definitely not a must have item for me and not at that price point. I am sharing screenshots of your responses to be transparent and fair with the current owner. I'm not in the business of ripping people off just to fill my collection.

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I am an amateur collector of US military items of the 20th century.

 

Looking for items related to:

-The Aleutian Island Campaign of WW2, Alaskan Theater, Alaska Defense Command, and more specifically the Battle of Attu

-Items related to the 50th Combat Engineer Regiment/Battalion

-Items related to Wheelus Air Force Base Libya, particularly from 1957-1960

-WW2 items belonging to service members from Northern Virginia

-WW2 Uniforms (all branches and services)

-Cheap/Throwaway WW2 named uniforms

-Smaller WW2 Groupings

-7th Infantry Division Items

-WW2 Photos and Letters (all branches, theaters, services, etc)

 

^^ PM ME!!

 

Instagram: @surplus_central https://instagram.com/surplus_central/

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1 minute ago, akriener said:

This is on a Facebook militaria exchange group I am a member of. The owner didn't know any of the specifics besides the research I did for her. Definitely not a must have item for me and not at that price point.

Understandable, I wouldn't purchase it either at that price, but from what I've seen on the market, larger size original jackets are worth quite a bid to reenactors. Usually the items gets down to a bidding war between two people which ulitmately drives the price up into the stratosphere.

Hunt


I am an amateur collector of US military items of the 20th century.

 

Looking for items related to:

-The Aleutian Island Campaign of WW2, Alaskan Theater, Alaska Defense Command, and more specifically the Battle of Attu

-Items related to the 50th Combat Engineer Regiment/Battalion

-Items related to Wheelus Air Force Base Libya, particularly from 1957-1960

-WW2 items belonging to service members from Northern Virginia

-WW2 Uniforms (all branches and services)

-Cheap/Throwaway WW2 named uniforms

-Smaller WW2 Groupings

-7th Infantry Division Items

-WW2 Photos and Letters (all branches, theaters, services, etc)

 

^^ PM ME!!

 

Instagram: @surplus_central https://instagram.com/surplus_central/

eBay: http://www.ebay.com/usr/giovachm

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This is what we got. One photo with flash and one without. Looks like a possible "y" at the very end of one. The line says inspector is it a reasonable assumption that was not the wearer? QM meaning? Quarter master tag?

And they get shrunk by the forum which adds to the challenge.

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Pre-war dated coat, good size. When readable, US Quarter Master tags are a wealth of information (maker, issuing QM depot, dates, size, etc.). Enlisted men only had one dress coat (this one until the M1944 Ike Jacket came out) for wear year round. This early on, the visored service cap would have been worn with it, but by the end of the war (this is a 'coming home' uniform), the flat garrison cap would be more common. The Ruptured Duck means he was discharged and headed home. 


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