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Over the years...

picked up 5 years ago the M47
3 years back I picked up TASC training sight for M47
2 years back I picked up the M47 unit training crate
This year finally located the missile
Not pictured, couple years back bought on eBay the parachutists pack
Done chasing the M47.
Now chasing FLASH M202

 

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Very nice! I was assigned as a Dragon Gunner for a while, never fired one though. It is such a great feeling when you get all the bits you are looking for to complete a display. But, like you say, on to the next thing!

Thanks for posting it.

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I never had to carry one around, but the guys that did, did not seem to happy about it.

The Dragon, big heavy ungainly thing to have to hump through the woods.

I was glad I didnt have to carry it.

The Flash was a wild weapon. They were still in the guard inventory back in 82.

4 LAW rockets in one weapon ! Saw one never fired one though.

Thats what Carrie Fisher used in the blues brothers to try and kill Belushi.

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Now that I think about it, I was a range NCO when we fired the Flash. It was not a LAW rocket, it was a flame weapon. I think it was about 1990 when we fired them at Camp Atterbury, IN. The ones we fired were made in 1968 as I recall the date. We were required to have a fire extinguisher at each firing point. There were no malfunctions. When you think about it, firing a weapon such as this that was made over two decades previously is pretty impressive.

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When I arrived at my first unit, 2-8 IN, 4th ID, in 2003, they were cleaning out all of the supply nooks of things that had long since dropped off the books. Several M-202 training launchers were there. I knew what they were. Very few of the guys outside of the senior NCO's had any idea what they were. One of my NCO's told me that the basements were filled with PRC-77's and similar vintage commo equipment. I never saw that and I'm sorry I didn't. I would have a couple more radios than I do now.

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Now that I think about it, I was a range NCO when we fired the Flash. It was not a LAW rocket, it was a flame weapon. I think it was about 1990 when we fired them at Camp Atterbury, IN. The ones we fired were made in 1968 as I recall the date. We were required to have a fire extinguisher at each firing point. There were no malfunctions. When you think about it, firing a weapon such as this that was made over two decades previously is pretty impressive.

 

 

Not positive but I think they could be loaded with different types of rockets. ? We were trained to use them

as an anti armor weapon. Possibly with a different type of munition in them ? Was back in the early 80's.

Take the cover off the back and front arm it and every time you squeeze the trigger you fire a Rocket.

Crazy !

 

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Charlie,

 

Impressive collection of M47 items.. I was a Dragon Gunner in the 101st.. A real bear to carry that plus both day and night trackers..

 

The night tracker was carried in a large rucksack with a plastic frame inside the ruck to keep the tracker safe.. We carried that ruck on our front and our regukar rucksack on our backs.. Luckily we didn't carry them all the time, but the night tracker was great in the defensive positions and at night time to observe our perimeter..

 

The M202 Flash was also in the inventory of weapons in Berlin whicle I was there.. We never used them or carried them to the field but trained with them and fired them when we went to Wildflecken, Graf, and other training sites in the West.

 

Leigh

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Really cool set up.

 

So who was carrying those? 11Hs? I went through OSUT in 92 and I guess these were either already phased out or only taught to the 11Hs. I only saw the AT4.

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After basic and AIT in 84 I was sent to dragon school as an 11B and upon graduation from the course at Ft Campbell KY I was awarded the additional skill identifier C2,

 

So my MOS was 11BC2 (Anti-Armor specialist)

 

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Really cool set up.

 

So who was carrying those? 11Hs? I went through OSUT in 92 and I guess these were either already phased out or only taught to the 11Hs. I only saw the AT4.

We had them mid 80's into the 90's.

Infantry. I've forgotten how many we had per platoon. We had at that time in a rifle platooon

3 squads and a 4th squad that consisted of 2 m-60 Machine gun teams.

Gunner assistant gunner and ammo bearer per M-60.

I think we had 2 per squad. And yea you had to carry the sight seperately. We only had the day sight for training. The guy that had to carry it had to carry all his other gear plus his weapon. Someone else carried the sight. Everyone carried M-60 Ammo. Seemed to be a much better weapon against a tank as opposed to a LAW. The new Man portable anti armor missles I read are fire and forget. You dont have to sit there and track the target through the sights. The missle locks on. .... So you can fire and hide.

 

The FGM-148 Javelin is an American man-portable fire-and-forget anti-tank missile fielded to replace the M47 Dragon anti-tank missile in US service.

 

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After basic and AIT in 84 I was sent to dragon school as an 11B and upon graduation from the course at Ft Campbell KY I was awarded the additional skill identifier C2,

 

So my MOS was 11BC2 (Anti-Armor specialist)

 

Leigh

 

 

I carried it before you Leigh-- no additional identifier, just the newest guy in the platoon! We split the day and night sight.

 

During Desert Storm (with the 101st), we focused a little more on training, but it was all "in house"-- don't remember sending anyone for post level training or any additional identifiers. Believe we actually fired one at Enemy trucks!

 

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Scott,

 

Do you remember the large field that was on the backside of the Air Assault School? There were some concrete pads on the field? We did our EIB testing there as well as the Dragon training... This was "Range Road" going out towards the back gate... 2/17 Cav was out there in the sticks...

 

Each company that sent gunners to the training fired the subcal. M47 devices and those who hit all the targets were selected to fire the live Dragon. When we did our live fire with the Dragon's at the range the other SMITH in the company who was in 2nd Platoon fired the dragon for C Company and he hit the dumpster target dead on.

 

The weapons squad at that time (80's) consisted of 2 M-60 machine guns and 2 M47 Dragon gunners. The Dragon gunners carried the launcher and day tracker and if we were going to the field via Helicopter we also carried the night tracker. If we were road marching or trucking the night tracker went into the supply jeep trailer.

 

We also had a 60mm mortar platoon in the company at that time. I only carried the Dragon for a short period of time.. I traded it in and became an assistant M60 gunner and ended up carrying the tripod and spare barrel bag with the T&E mechanism and other stuff. A lot lighter and less cumbersome than that M47 tube..

 

After range qualification the 60 Gunner couldn't qualify, I qualified expert with the 60 and took over as the gunner..

 

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Leigh-- I remember it well! When was the last time you were at Campbell?

 

Suspect you wouldn't recognize anything now. AASLT School moved out that range road-- across from the NBC chamber area and finally the 187th got new barracks/ hq buildings. The general 187th block is the same, but all new buildings.

 

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Scott,

 

The last time I was at Ft Campbell was in December 1986,, signed out on PCS leave.. Have not been back since....

 

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I never had to carry one around, but the guys that did, did not seem to happy about it.

The Dragon, big heavy ungainly thing to have to hump through the woods.

I was glad I didnt have to carry it.

 

I lugged one of the dummies around on an FTX at Indiantown Gap in 1984 and I can still remember thinking that something that small (the tracker) could not possibly be that damn heavy. :dry:

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